BMW S1000RR Test Ride

Nice! Sounds like the shift cam tech kicking in making it go warp speed? :slight_smile:

Suspension is always a total lottery from the dealer, you’d have to get it setup for you. @B would almost certainly be able to fix that steering issue.

@kcoops awesome! Shame about the steering, but as @Jay says maybe worth chatting to @B and bargain with the dealer?

Are you not going for a 2019/20 one due price? Or something else?


I haven’t got on one yet. Lind Motorrad are waiting for a new test bike to be delivered because they sold theirs. Unless they sold it because the buyer was desperate, I don’t understand why wouldn’t keep a +600 mile S1000RR ready for test because like you say… what’s the point?

They were supposed to get one today, but I haven’t heard from them so may reach out to a different dealer.

I’ve also reached out to Ducati about the V2 just to try it. And I’ve reached out to Yamaha about the R6. Neither have responded to my emails yet, so will probably give them a bell tomorrow.

I’m kind of surprised that the dealers don’t come across as more keen to get me in… The first Ducati dealer I spoke to did say the demand is flying right now because those who didn’t buy at the beginning of the season are now knocking on the door… but still. Maybe I’m being to harsh what with coronavirus probably making a huge production line backlog too.

@Jay and @kylejm I might consider that conversation with @B, but don’t want to buy with a fault and then it turns out it is something bigger and cannot be completely fixed. Gonna see what they come back with.

@kylejm dont know where you are based but if Bahnstormer Maidenhead is within distance give them a call and ask for Aldo. I have been dealing with him so far and he has been really straight with me, he does try the odd sales tactic, as to be expected. Drop my name (Kerwayne) it might get me a discount. :rofl:

As for the 2020 model, price is a factor and I have never been a fan of buying new and feeling the depreciation sting. I got lucky with my gixxer back in 2015 and got a 0% APR deal. Also not sure I will use what I pay for. Even though a few reviews have said the ride is equivalent, I think it is better on the 2020 model. Who knows, they might feel generous and give me a sweet deal I cannot refuse.

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Bikes are big purchases there is no excuse for tardy responses from dealers.

It’s why I miss Metropolis. I know they had their faults but I actually just went in to kick tyres and chat and ended up doing a deal on part-ex’ing my 748 for a new Supersport. The salesman judged it perfectly: interested in selling to me but not too pushy; sorted out a long test ride; spent ages explaining options; and what clinched it for me was he treated my part-ex bike with respect. I’ve been to so many bike and car dealers over the years and they always poo-poo your trade-in vehicle “oh, not much call for those nowadays. Oh, mileage is a bit high. Oh, that’s not a popular colour now”. Of course all those things might be true but no point pissing of the potential buyer.

Yes, I miss Metropolis.

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As Michael says, you have the money to spend and, within reason, need to be given the service you need to invest. Sometimes sales people forget that these bikes cost a lot of money and selling one isn’t like buying a tin of beans. This can happen when you sell these things day in day out

However, I’ve never actually e-mailed to do a test ride. I’ve always just phoned up. Could it be they just never get a chance to go over emails? I’ve always assumed the de facto way of doing this is via phone.

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@Michael748 the service you’re talking about at Metropolis is exactly what I’m after and is exactly what I as talking about in an earlier post.

Although I’m apprehensive to part with so much cash, I can see the right service and experience on the bike would take me there. Love the sound of being able to take my time on the bike for a long test ride. @kcoops did you specifically ask for that?

@Serrisan followed yours and @kcoops’s advice, just got off the phone with Barhnstomer Thames Valley. Was more helpful, but the person I spoke to wasn’t Aldo and since @kcoops is making the referral they’re going to get Aldo call me back later as they were busy.

Going to give Powerbiking High Wycombe and Ducati Aylesbury a call later to see about R6 and V2.

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@kylejm no I didn’t, Aldo offered it. Once he realised I am genuinely interested and not just looking to joy ride he was accommodating. Not saying that he will offer you the same, but you never know. An hour is not enough time, you need more than that.

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Test ride booked for next Thursday, got the bike for 4-5 hours :star_struck:

@kcoops Aldo was very pleased to have the referral and thanked me several times for asking for him, so make sure you get that discount :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:. Maybe you could get the 2019 model now :joy:

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Excellent enjoy it, there are some nice roads around there so you can get a decent feel, hopefully the weather holds. I just saw an email from him asking for your details, so good you got through. Definitely going to try and cash in on it. :joy:

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Just spoke to Yamaha Powerbiking High Wycombe. They said that R6 is sold out globally until at least the end of the year :joy:.

Ducati Aylesbury have a demo Panigale V2 coming in. Gonna speak to them next week and book a visit.

Also may try out the R1 in a couple of weeks with Powerbiking.

Started looking around so I can make sure to find something to compare the S1000RR to and ideally find a sub 1L supersport to try. Thought about the Ninja 650 or the CBR1000RR Fireblade. Sadly the next bike with lower power thank the Fireblade is the CBR650R, which is just a CBR650 (cafe racer) with sports fairing.

Might have a mosey into a few dealers for Kawasaki and Honda. Anyone got opinions on sports bikes from those two?

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Did you ask InMoto if they can loan you a V2? ask for Cristian (runs the place) and tell him I sent you.

And if you get a test ride, let me know and I’ll come with you.

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Cheers @Jay, very kind. Will give them a shout!

@kylejm how did you get on with the test ride ?

Had the test ride in a terrible week. Was much needed rest from some absolute bullshit we’re facing with estate agents after moving earlier last week.

Short and sweet summary


Loved it, lots of fun, but I’m not convinced.

Full Thoughts


The Good

It was the first supersport I’ve ever ridden. I knew that supersport bikes are hard on your wrists and core strength, and aren’t for comfort, but despite expecting that I was surprised by how much the bars dug into my hands and as to how high my feet/knees were!

However, 30 mins into the ride I felt confident on the bike. Man the engine is smooth as butter. Was a delight. No gaps in power delivery, no fucking around with winding the bike up or balancing the clutch when I’m between the lower gears on my MT-07.

The other thing I loved was how precise the handling felt. It was as if the bike read my mind as to where I wanted to go. Such a precision instrument, and for me this gave so much fun and confidence in the corners. I’ve never felt so sure that a bike was going to grip in my life, especially at super high speeds. Was just amazing.

Not to mention, when you get the revs up it sounds amazing and when you let go of the accelerator at the lower end of the revs the exhaust pops, bangs and grumbles. Lovely.

Also I loved the TFT and dash design. Gorgeous.

The Bad

Sadly though, it’s too much for me I think. All I wanted to do was fly, for two reasons.

First, the handle bars kinda dig into my palms. Above 40 mph this isn’t really a problem because the wind resistance supports you. In towns/cities I was gripping the tank with my legs or using my core to take some pressure of my hands and give them a break. But the most comfortable way to give my hands a break was to get the speed up and use the wind. You could also use the cruise control (which was really, really cool), but not so practical in traffic, obviously.

Second, it’s just downright fun. By habit I was rinsing the fuck out of any open gap I had. What a feeling, but too easy to break the speed limit.

All Put Together

I’m kinda sad that I don’t want it more because it’s so gorgeous and so fun. But for now, I only have money and time for one bike, and it turns out that it probably needs to be a bit more comfy and encouraging of keeping under the speed limit haha.

That £18k gets you tonnes of fun above 50mph, but below that it’s not really that fun. As much as I love the way it looks and sounds.

In the future, I can definitely see myself having a supersport in my roster.

Alternative


When I got back I talked over my thoughts with Aldo. We took a walk around the showroom and picked out the S1000XR, the tourer with the same engine as the S1000RR. He gave me a go on that for a while too. What an amazing ride that was.

Super fast, sounded just like the RR, but really, really comfy. Unreal to be sat so comfortably but to be able to accelerate like that. Just a shame it’s ugly…

So are supersports off menu now?


Well I want to try out the Panigale still. Just for the fun of it. It’s not that I hated the S1000RR or my supersport experience, I just don’t think I’ll get my money’s worth without getting on the track more or spending more time on open, twisty roads.

But… yeh, I think they’re off menu.

So what you gonna buy?


I’ve found a new appreciation for my MT-07 by test riding the S1000RR and the S1000XR.
The MT-07 is the only bike I’ve ever rode for more than 1 hour, so before then I didn’t really understand what it was good for. It’s pretty comfy, pretty fast, agile and gives me confidence when handling lots of traffic and filtering.

But I still want to replace it. The 1000cc engine was so, so easy. I loved that I didn’t have to wind it up, drop gears, or balance the clutch at low speeds. I also loved the crazy acceleration and the handling of the XR and RR, which was better than my MT-07. The fairing on the RR and XR was also a welcome experience. Needless to say I’m smacked all over the place on dual carriageway ways by the wind on my MT-07. Lastly, I think my MT-07 is pretty ugly… and I want to love the way my bike looks.

My struggle is that I now have competing priorities:

  • Must be comfortable at lower speeds
  • Must be gorgeous and provide excitement aesthetically
  • Must deliver faster acceleration than the MT-07
  • Must give excitement in the corners that reaches towards the likes of a sports bike

Other additions I’m interested in post test ride:

  • Interested in the bike having some decent fairing after experiencing what a non-naked bike is like on fast roads
  • Quick shifter – never used one before, must have for me now
  • Luggage. I’ve been using my bike a bit more in the city with my parter and panniers would be handy to store our helmets in

I can’t think of many bikes that are rapid, super fun in corners, beautiful, yet comfortable and hold some sense of practicality. Rapid makes me think sport (not comfy at slower speeds). Corner fun also makes me thing sport bike (not comfy at slower speeds). Comfort makes me think adventure bike (not many are good looking).

I think I’d like to give the Multistrada a try, since I think that doesn’t look too bad. And I think the MT-09 or MT-10 would be very interesting for me, but although I think they look cool, I’m not 100% sold on their style. Street Triple might be worth a shout also… (cc @nivag)

I think I’m going to spend a few days riding between several dealers, talking to them, getting a load of test rides.

Basically, back to the drawing board and open to anything suiting those criteria!

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Did you do any of the test ride with a pillion? You may find they absolutely hate the position they sit.

I did not, but that is exactly what the sales person said. They said if it’s more than a trip to the store, they’ll hate it.

So it seems that’s also a blocker on sportsbikes, unless I get to a position where I can have an everyday bike and a toy bike :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:.

You up for this sometime next week? PM me :+1:

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What about the naked s1000?

Nice write up.
If you’re looking for a litre bike the Speed Triple is also something to look at if you’re going to try the Street.
It won’t have the high top end speed of the sports bike but has tons of useable power down low. Plus not as aggressive riding position.
You can be super lazy and use the torque to cruise around or click a gear or 2 down to really get a move on.

Fair enough, I guess because I have been on a gixer for the past 5 years part of which I was commuting into London I have gotten accustomed to it. It was the least wristy of all the sport bikes i test rode then. I find the bmw to be even more comfortable, than that. Having said that the S1000R was almost like a sofa so get where you coming from.

I agree it is silly easy to ride fast so gotta be disciplined and not do nonsense on the road.

Well if you think this is uncomfortable, I think the V4 will be worse. They look like your in a constant nose dive.