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They used to say that football was the poor people sport… It is partly true. It is 'the poor because stupid" people sport…
Only good part of football is that during match, most morons are off the road and getting pissed in a pub… Good time for a ride…
this has been the first season that I’ve not been home and away supporting Liverpool, partly because my missus moved down to London with me and partly because I was tired of having my life dictated by football on a saturday, but i do miss it, i really do.Home and away in the prem and in europe for the last 5 seasons (I’ve travelled over 150,000 miles watching liverpool, and I’ve only really had two “incidents” in that time - one away at middlesborough (the lads ended up beating each other up, and clearly wanted a fight) and the other at stamford bridge (by a group of burburry clad 18 year olds who thought they were hard)…
If people are looking for trouble they will find it, you cant stop it, its like being out on a sat night and bumping into someone who is looking for a fight, theres not a lot you can do! But for the most part, the true fans are not the trouble makers… its the latchers on, the lads who just want a fight and are generally seen in town on a weekend fighting…
I guess where I’m going is that not all football supporters are pricks and not all supporters are thugs, infact, it’s only a minority that are, and its the minority that spoil it for the majority of “true fans”…
In terms of punishment, these so called fans, if caught, should be tried in court and should be banned from football grounds for life and they should be banned from travelling, made to present their passports to a police station when rangers and scotland are playing internationals.
What?
Not cutting their balls off and giving them to the pigs?
Lock them up, through away the key…
Do I detect a touch of reactionary feeling here?
In any group of, what, 30/40,000 people your going to get a few sh*t heads. Some will be pissed, some will be larcenous, some will be violent.
Curiously, some sports, rugby springs to mind, don’t seem to attract that many sh*t heads. Well, except the pissed.
Odd thought. How many policemen are there in England?
what i meant was that when there are international football matches on they are banned from leaving the country… its the same punishment that is currently given out to those who are banned from football grounds in the UK…
What’s the saying? “Football is a gentleman’s game played by hooligans, Rugby is a hooligan’s game played by gentlemen”. Seems true of the spectators too.
Well said KML, I’ve been going to home and away games for years. I’ll be at Wembley for the final on Saturday which will no doubt have a heavy police presence as most people who follow football know that Cardiff and Pompey both sadly have their hooligan element. However as with the BBC report on the Rangers game, 100,000 people travelled from Scotland for the game and 200 of them were intent on causing trouble, so yet again the minority give the majority a bad name!
Personally I think they should either lock them in a cage and let them kick the wotsit out of each other or bang them all up! I hate seeing it and I hate the fact that these people call themselves fans!! :crazy:
If you get locked up Tim I’ll look after ya bike matey give it a proper run out then I can keep my new toy dry !! :D:D
No need for that Steve, she had a proper run out last weekend, all the way to Weymouth and back, great fun in fantastic weather, shame I had no company on the trip but there ya go, you wouldn’t be able to keep up on that old Honda of yours anyway!! 
Doing it again the weekend of the 31st as my little bro is having a BBQ if anyone fancies a run down to Dorset? (providing the police have let me out by then…)
Oh and I see you have a new username Steve… 
What I mean is that banning them is not enough.
Zero tolerance to be applied… First strike=long jail sentence in the worth, most overcrowded jail in the country
Second Strike=long jail sentence in the worth, most overcrowded jail in a third word country
Third strike=Life
Will see how many would be big boy then…
get a few thousand people together and some will definitely go ‘off-key’ and act mindlessly.
Ok so they smash a few buildings up, throw bricks at each other and act like fecking ar5eh0les.
Should they be banned from football games? yes.
treated like thugs? yes
imprisoned for life? you’ve got to be joking.
I am not known for my sense of humour mate
The funny thing with harsh punishment is that it works
Once you send the first few in jail for 12 months+ with warning that the next time is life, I am pretty sure that the problems will solved themself…
See, its funny, but every time we get conversations like this i get shades of the “I hate Scooters” conversation… now I KNOW, I too was just as guilty of that, but basically it boils down to rocks in glass houses… I’ll bet there’s plenty of footie fans out there that have seen at least a couple of bikers racing past at LUDICROUS excessive speeds in heavily built up areas and thought… “Morons”
So who are we to judge…?
IMO, football should have stopped being referred to as a game years ago. It isn’t a game anymore. It’s a business for those who take part in it and it’s a way of life (or addiction) for those who support it. It is in no way a “game” in the traditional sense of the word.
Oh and I hate it too. 
disagree TOTALLY. People in the 70’s/ 80’s and 90’s were giving BIG sentences for hooliganism.
10 years + in some cases. Did that stop anybody?
No.
Possible punishment has never stopped the hardcore doing anything.
There are harsh punishments for all manner of crimes. Have the same crimes stopped being committed by others???
How about the thousands of games happening in dog poop parks around the world.
Football may be big business in the top leagues but football doesn’t stop there.
SCUM…
I WONDER HOW MANY OF THEM HAVE NEEDED A POLICEMAN.
Sorry fella but he’s right, punishment was originally a “deterrent”. Yes people were given big penalties in th80s and 90s… how much hooliganism do we have now compared to those days? EXPONENTIALLY LESS, cos they ARE now afraid of the punishment.
Another example… the death penalty. The Sunday Times published an American study that showed that every time someone was executed in Texas, the crime levels for violent crime and drug related crime went down by as much as 40% in the area where that execution was publicised for up to three months… Punishment ONLY works, if the perpetrators FEAR the consequences of their actions… if they’re not afraid of “a warning”, or “being sent to a light security prison” or “doing a 2 year stretch and out on parole when they were sentenced to 15 years” then they won’t consider the punishment a deterrent to their behaviour…