I would be quite unusual for someone to be arrested for a simple fail to stop personal injury accident in these circumstances. It would be quite difficult to show the necessity for the arrest for a summary only offence, where the suspect has already attended a police station, reported the incident, and given their side of the story. What is more usual in these kind of incidents is for someone to visit him at home or work having made an appointment with him and conduct an interview, under caution, and contemporaneously recorded on paper, at the end of the interview he would be told he is being reported for summons for any offences the interviewing officer believes may have been committed. The criminal justice unit would then decide whether to issue a summons. Or the criminal justice unit may just issue a summons anyway based on the victims & witnesses statements, and the report given to police by the original poster. I would however agree with you on one thing, if proceedings are started, or an interview contemplated he should get himself good specialised legal advice asap. Potentially the punishment for failing to stop is a legthy disqualification, which I’m sure he would want to avoid, and good legal advice would pay for itself if he either avoided being found guilty, or if convicted avoided a disqualification…
That’s nice, so if someone hits my car/bike and simply drives off and did not injure me or anyone else then the police doesn’t do anything??? Obviously it is not a obstruction of justice or a hit and run… this happened to my mum, I was a witness and the police couldn’t care less, since you need an independant witness and someone to be injured. Great… would have been easier to say that my GF was the witness…
This brings me next issue, so if I go and scratch someone’s car or do anything to it that’s vandalism? and I can get done for it? If I go reverse and hit someone’s car and drive off… that’s… what??? Obviously that’s not a crime is it now??
I am trying to understand the law… in his case the big mistake was that he bothered going to the police station in first place. Since SV55 had a lot worst and the idiots got away so it seems.
Congratulations you’d be having her perjure herself. Up to 7 years in Prison (technically). Some of the situations you’ve described are ‘civil’ and some are criminal… it’s about intent.
not been on for awhile but thank you john for putting that straight. i will be having someone accompany me if or when it happens all ive got to do now is wait afew more weeks and see if i get a letter with a court date on it
er… I would imagine that Shiver85’s position would have been somewhat worse if he hadn’t reported this to the police, and if someone had taken and reported his registration number to the police.
just had a letter from the police station that were dealing with this matter and it says im just getting a warning and no criminal charges put against me
but it does say any other things with this may still be pending (sorry for lack of details my brother was telling me it over the phone)
could that mean that i might still be fined and get points even though im not going to court?
it might be referring to civil action (pedestrian suing you for personal injury money, for example)… when you get the letter, give me a call and we’ll go for a coffee…
From personal experience:
a. Don’t trust the police, they will lie & perjure themselves if they think you are guilty but don’t have the evidence.
b. Say nothing further to the police without legal advice.
c. Get legal advice from one of the specialist bike solicitors - don’t go for your local one.
Ian
well nothing else is happening with this now as the police have said they are just giving me a warning so ill forget it until maybe one day the doughnut can find afew more fake witnesses and try a claim
point a , really what happened ? are you sure they lied
From personal experience people that say the above are always guilty !
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Are you getting a warning or a caution? You need to be clear that there is a difference between these two and a caution is never a good thing to accept if you have any chance of fighting it.
Mate I’m soooo pleased for you, to be honest it may be a bit cack if he makes a claim, but to be honest things could have been alot worse.
I think you have done well mate, cuppa tea for you next time I see you at borough
The warning should also say that this is pending from 6 months from the date of the accident, if no further evidence (or witnesses) come forward.I know just hows you feel. I had an accident where by a drunk women walked into the side of my car last year. However, i stopped and rang 999 straight away. They cautioned me, but nothing else was brough against me.The stuipd women tried to claim personal injury against me, for not stopping, speeding and other various things from a no win, no fee claim. She didn’t win mind you, but it’s also good to check that you have legal cover on your insurance.
Not in my experience, not always 
There are some rotten eggs in every profession.
Just put it down to experience and know better next time (as in stop). After you’d been brethalised the fuzz would have probably sent you on your way or if you volunteered to call the fuzz the chap you hit may have sent you on your way.
I helped a girl out of the road who’d been hit by a taxi she’d run infront of. She was shaken but not injured. I gave a statement to the fuzz and later followed up with a report. The interviewed everyone including the taxi driver. A few weeks later I got a letter thanking me for my time and saying the matter was closed.
I was taking the urine ! 
sorry Trojan but I have seen this too, taking the ‘we we’ or not it is a serious situation and with the policemans word being so powerful in court a simple ‘white lie’ is totally unacceptable as it can affect a persons life forever…no matter how sure the policeman is of the persons guilt. Your statement, said in jest maybe, but is archetypical of the problem that has to be erradicated from the police force before it will ever win the trust of the public again…this is my opinion and may not be true but is regurgitated from my experience with the police…a conviction at any cost is Teleselvalas 60’s TV stuff and nonsense and not for the 21st century…
I think you’ll find that 99.9% of police officers really have got better things to do with their time than commit perjury.
The issue of public trust is more related to the fact that the Government created a situation where the Police were forced to criminalise people (bloody targets) that they would have otherwise dealt with through the use of discretion.
So if you want to have a pop you’d be better off aiming it at Gordon Brown and Jacqui Smith as the targets and reams of badly thought out law were down to them and not the Police.
That said there are of course a few bad apples in every barrel…
I think you’ll find that 99.9% of police officers really have got better things to do with their time than commit perjury.
The issue of public trust is more related to the fact that the Government created a situation where the Police were forced to criminalise people (bloody targets) that they would have otherwise dealt with through the use of discretion.
So if you want to have a pop you’d be better off aiming it at Gordon Brown and Jacqui Smith as the targets and reams of badly thought out law were down to them and not the Police.
That said there are of course a few bad apples in every barrel…
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Not sure that your facts are correct either, there is significant historical information that a larger proportion of the police force will massage the truth to win a conviction especially if they think they are right and it is my experience also…I went into court at the age of 17 and heard this story from the policemans mouth and I actually thought I was in the wrong court. I spoke to the judge and said this and he thought I was being clever, I didnt have a solicitor, you can guess what happened…I never made that mistake again…
It is not just the government the police have played their part too…it was the Head of the Police force who said he wanted to make speeding as offencive as they had made drink driving…the police have played their part.
I agree that the targets set by the Government as a method of measuring the success or not of the police seem to have had the worst possible effect on the forces activites and their relationship with the people to whom they are supposed to be responsible to…but its not just targets, its the introduction of stupid laws, along with ever more rules and regulations, and the putting of the police under ever more unwelcome scrutiny, that undermine the polices ability to do the job thoroughly and effectively and on top of that we penny pinch them on wages and the cash they have to carry out their job…
Not a happy picture…and one that I cannot see an easy reolution to…