What a complete dick.
C*nt… but I can understand why the rider would not argue with him there and then. Do you really want to deal with a clearly bent cop who will take you through bureaucratic loopholes to make it hard, or just be polite and then go to the police station and report him?
Sure - I’d understand that too except for the fact that he had video. That cop has a terrible attitude and should get disciplined.
and who’s to say he doesn’t take the camera off him and brake it on the floor?
And you get a beating for your troubles and the trouble with police breaking the law… they rarely get the same anyone else does.
Human nature, when someone does something wrong they go on the offensive…lol seen it a thousand times
Cop was a dick though.
A policeman UTTERLY unaware of the concept of “A STOPPING DISTANCE!!!”
Priceless
Yeah, I guess arguing with him will make this much less likely… :doze:
You misunderstood me… I’m saying that’s why i can understand he is NOT arguing with him.
I never said he should argue with him.
The guy handled the cop really well I thought.
The policeman was clearly a massive prick overly pumped up on his own power and could have made the riders life an absolute misery if he’d wanted to…
Better to swallow your pride and get on with it rather than argue and get **** for it.
You just need to watch those ‘worlds wildest police videos’ shows to see how awful the US police are at driving.
I lived in the States for 8 years so yes I know how bad the cops are (at driving and at being cops). However, because he has video, there is no way the biker should have accepted the BS in this case. This cop was clearly thinking he could bully someone into submission and that is unacceptable behaviour. Don’t forget, this is America we are talking about - more lawyers than flies on a dung heap. If it gains momentum or a lawyer, the cop is going to be forced to apologise at the very least. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a lawsuit.
Shame, but you got to remember the following rule - Wankers - they come in all shapes and sizes and they have lots of different jobs. Thankfully for every donut cop like this there is 20 that would have stopped and said sorry!!
What an arsehole policeman. The car on the left lane had its indicator on - the biker therefore left him enough space to come into the lane. I do hope that this was taken further…
Well guys with all respect:
- distance between car and motorcycle was/is at least 6 sec. I don’t see rain, snow, fog, zombies on the road, why such a distance? that is pretty much what causing most of traffic in London, morons with 2-3 lengths of car at front because they are not aware where they corsa/ka have its bumper.
- breaking itself was harsh and almost emergency, when you doing 5mph and slam both breaks even bike stop instantly (on dry road), this have every measure of sudden stop.
Judging distance between bike and car the cop may not expect a Muppet who just slam the breaks because he is king of the road, a bit of consideration what is at front of you and behind you and we all reach our destination quickly and smoothly.
And now turn situation around, few days back post about addison lee slamming breaks middle of the road so no one at front on taxi, and nothing for a fair distance at front of bike. I understand solidarity etc… but let’s be fair.
I understand this view will not make me popular well tough ****…
R
Sorry, but I have to disagree.
Under no circumstances should you have to give up your rights or civil liberties, just because someone carries a badge and a big stick.
Conrad B (08/03/2013)
The guy handled the cop really well I thought.
The policeman was clearly a massive prick overly pumped up on his own power and could have made the riders life an absolute misery if he’d wanted to…
Better to swallow your pride and get on with it rather than argue and get **** for it.
You just need to watch those ‘worlds wildest police videos’ shows to see how awful the US police are at driving.
evilblade (08/03/2013)
Well guys with all respect:
- distance between car and motorcycle was/is at least 6 sec. I don’t see rain, snow, fog, zombies on the road, why such a distance? that is pretty much what causing most of traffic in London, morons with 2-3 lengths of car at front because they are not aware where they corsa/ka have its bumper.
- breaking itself was harsh and almost emergency, when you doing 5mph and slam both breaks even bike stop instantly (on dry road), this have every measure of sudden stop.
Judging distance between bike and car the cop may not expect a Muppet who just slam the breaks because he is king of the road, a bit of consideration what is at front of you and behind you and we all reach our destination quickly and smoothly.
And now turn situation around, few days back post about addison lee slamming breaks middle of the road so no one at front on taxi, and nothing for a fair distance at front of bike. I understand solidarity etc… but let’s be fair.
I understand this view will not make me popular well tough ****…
R
I suggest you watch the video again. The gap the biker was leaving in front is no more than 3 seconds. Yanks are taught to drive like that and get very nervous if you “tailgate” closer than that. We don’t leave gaps like that because here we have tiny roads just about wider than a car, they have massive wide lanes (with up to 6 lanes). The car on the left was signalling to move over and braked. The biker had already moved to the right defensively because he wasn’t sure the guy on the left had seen him and by braking was giving the guy a chance to move over and still leave his defensive space. You can’t blame the guy for driving defensively and his braking might have seemed to fast to you but they were crawling along so any braking at all is gonna bring the bike to a stop. REGARDLESS of what the bike did the car behind should have left more space. SO - the bike was as far as I can see completely blameless for the accident.
However that wouldn’t have been an issue at all IF the cop had jumped out of the car and behaved respectfully. He didn’t and that is why I think he was totally out of line - and should be reprimanded. His driving skills suck and that’s unfortunate but what he did next was an abuse of the position he holds.
Behaviour of cop is out of question as hideous and inappropriate. I don’t argue with this and I found no need to comment this one.
As one is entitled to the opinion it is different than yours about riding.
Regarding “not having gap like this because of tiny roads” I don’t know where you get that, pretty much every day, especially in traffic I see more gaps than cars, which is good, I can always fit my bike in. Well only 4 cars will pass junction on green light but well who cares about vehicle behind.
I just finding hilarious how easy is find to excuse when biker is ram in the back, and how invalid is every excuse when car/bus/van/lorry driver do exactly the same emergency stop for whatever reason. What I trying to say that was really easy to avoid stupid collision by looking around not just forward.
R
“Are we ok” no we are not ok you d1ck head, you just crashed in to me!!
Is it really illegal in the states to brake hard when someone is behind you!! I’m pretty sure that’s crap so cop clearly doesn’t know the law which is worrying!
Cop was the one changing lanes and pulling in too close behind the bike, doesn’t matter how much space the biker had in front of him!
@Evilblade, glad you agree on the main point - the cop had no right to talk like that (and the LV Metro police have started an investigation about that).
As for your opinion versus mine - you are correct, it’s your right to see it differently - but in the case where there is a rear end shunt it is almost always found to be the fault of the driver following. Simples.
@Tiggi the cop can only be referring to what yanks call a “brake check” (slamming brakes on to piss off the driver behind). Doing that to deliberately cause an accident could (in the States) be seen as reckless driving with intent to cause and accident. However, in this case the cop is never going to win that argument because that is clearly not what happened as can be seen in the video.
Yes, the majority of this kind of accidents will be in favour of vehicle who was at the front. And fair enough in majority of cases that is correct. However you have to ask yourself a question, is it really worth your health to proof that you have right if someone slam into your back, especially when you can easy avoid it, instead of stopping suddenly just gracefully bring vehicle to stop, especially when you have plenty of road to do this. If vehicle behind instead of 5mph will be doing 20mph there is high possibility of spine injuries or even fatality, and then all valid points about following distance etc become a bit silly. If you have a road, and you can safely use it, just do it for your own safety.
R
I agree he dealt with the cop the right way. He should do as he did, then submit the video to someone with a complaint. He would have nothing to gain arguing his case. Do you really think the cop will change his mind and apologise?