And Justice for all?

I spent Friday the 21st of May in court for two hours defending my road riding and right to hold onto my license. I had plead “not guilty” to the offence of riding without due care and attention. I’d like to share my experience as it may help someone also wishes to challenge a police offence accusation if they feel it is unjustified. Here’s a bit of background.

My friend and I had been filmed by a covert bike on a day trip down the A29 in August 2009. He was the lead bike and I was being filmed directly from behind. We were both pulled at the same time by two marked vehicles contacted ahead over radio by the covert bike following me. The covert bike left the scene before we got a chance to see him. Here’s the footage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVag6CzUyGg

At roadside we were both spoken to by separate officers who explained we would be getting a summons in the post for riding without due care and attention (section 3 of the road traffic act 1988). I explained to the officer that I had felt threatened by a bike behind me continually mimicking my actions and maintaining an uncomfortable distance behind me. I had no clue this was a police bike as it was unmarked and at that time there were no signs to indicate any operation of that sort may be in force. In addition we both received a section 59 on both ourselves and the bike. This means:

  1. If we are stopped again and are considered to be riding badly the bike we are riding can be confiscated (whether we own the bike or not).
  2. If our bikes are being ridden badly by another rider the bike can be confiscated.

The section 59 lasts for a year from when it was issued.

In January 2010 I received a summons. The police have a legal window of six months to lodge an offence with the court but the court date can follow at any time. Eventually the court date came about for May 21st 2010. My friend, however, received no summons and when he called to find out the status of his summons he was told there would be no further action taken on his case and would be receiving no summons at any point.

I decided to defend myself. After speaking to a solicitor their charges fell outside of my budget and I felt I had a strong enough case to be able to represent myself in a fair trial in the right way. I have no barrister training or background in the legal system. I wouldn’t recommend anyone do this as it’s quite a challenging experience and there is a good reason why people have to spend seven years training as a solicitor - law is an absolute minefield!! But if you’re like me and pig headed then you’ll happily pack yourself off to court.

My girlfriend took the day off work and drove me down to Worthing court, just near Brighton. It was a beautiful day and I had prepared a fair amount of work beforehand to defend my case. The officer’s statement with regard to my riding had claimed:

  • The biker was shifting his body weight from left to right…when used at road speeds it can adversely affect the handling characteristics of a motorcycle…
  • The bike overtook a van as it travelled through the junction of the A29 and B2138 contravening rule 167 of the HIghway Code
  • The bike continued to overtake vehicle after vehicle breaking speed limits
  • The motorcycles slowed when oncoming vehicles flashed headlights warning of a police presence ahead

So I was in for a challenge of defending against these points.

In the courtroom the covert officer was brought in to give his testimony and comment on the video in the trail. He did so and explained all of his points, pausing the footage each time to explain and justify a point. I was then allowed to cross examine the officer. This went pretty badly. I didn’t gain anything from asking him questions and it didn’t really throw doubt on his judgement or expertise. I was quite stumped at the time and I think it showed that I had nothing that I could pull the officer up on in terms of incorrect knowledge. To his credit he was an experienced rider and would do well at being a DAS instructor.

The second officer was then brought in, but this was more formality as this officer only took my details at roadside - he was providing no evidence other than what I said to him at roadside. Unfortunately he didn’t include in his written statement what I said at roadside. I still made a point of mentioning I told him at the time that I felt threatened.

Following my generally poor cross examining of the police officers I was then allowed to relay my version of events. I began by submitting a statement by a friend and race teacher who gave his version of what he saw on the video in relation to me moving around on the bike. To summarise, the statement said that I was in fact helping to keep the bike more upright and stable and providing myself with more vision around bends. Unfortunately this was not allowed as it was not in the format the court requires! This was an error on my part for not researching this aspect and I would encourage anyone submitting evidence to clarify how it should be submitted in court.

I then submitted a Bike Safe certificate that I received upon completion of the course. My aim was to show that I was a conscientious rider and had made an effort to educate myself into riding well on the road. At this point the clerk of the court warned me that by submitting this I was now opening myself up to cross examination of my character as I was trying to insinuate that I am a good rider and not guilty of that which I am being accused. I didn’t understand this fully at the time, but I submitted it anyway. I’ll come back to this point.

It was now my turn to run the DVD in court and comment on the footage giving my version of events. I did so and explained how I was trying to create distance between myself and the pursuing bike who just seemed to be mimicking, goading and threatening me. I also pointed out where I WAS riding safely and how I didn’t maintain high speeds as this was not my intention, as well as pointing out that flashing headlights from a car are not necessarily a warning to bikers.

The last part was me summarising why I felt I was not guilty and what my thoughts were on the footage as a whole. The prosecution was then allowed to cross examine me.

Skipping the mundane questions, my BikeSafe certificate now came back to haunt me - I was asked if I had a clean licence. I wasn’t prepared for this question as I thought previous convictions don’t get taken into account when pleading not guilty. I thought each court case is judged on its own merit.

I have 11 points. To explain, 8 of those points were for riding one late night without insurance, an administrative oversight on my part where I thought I had booked my insurance online but the credit card had declined. The judges had no choice but to give me the 8 points regardless of whether it was my mistake or not. I should point out they could have banned me but chose not to. I also have three points for a minor speeding offence caught with a speed gun.

Anyway, the prosecution were effectively allowed to bring up my points with the net result of saying I was a poor rider and that this DVD and the previous points proved it. I was also summed up as being a very dangerous and wreckless rider.

So that was that. We broke for recess and I waited for a verdict.

Law is a funny thing in that a slight technicality can have a trial thrown out, which is where the lawyers come in. They have that inside knowledge as to what technicalities count and what can be played on. I didn’t have such knowledge and my case wasn’t thrown out at all. I found myself feeling that a ban was inevitable as well as paying all court costs and a possible fine. The day wasn’t looking quite so beautiful now regardless of how sunny it was.

I was called about 20 minutes later to stand in the dock:

“In the case of riding without due care and attention we of the court find Sheraz Yousaf does not meet that criteria.”
“We therefore find him NOT guilty.”

“That’s a fair verdict”, I thought.

Lessons:

  1. Challenge a police offence if you feel strongly enough that you are being wrongly prosecuted
  2. Research the court system and procedures
  3. Stay resolved in your belief in yourself even when under pressure in the court room

I’d like to add that I don’t think all the wheelie action you see on YouTube being done on motorways and suburbian roads equate to this case and I personally encourage measures that help promote safe and enjoyable riding. No I don’t agree with certain speed limits and road safety limits do need updating with vehicle technology as it is, but don’t look at this case as a way to get out of doing daft antics in the suburbs. Leave that for the track, and possibly Friday nights outside a cafe in NW London.

Thanks for posting this, and congratulations for the “not guilty” verdict.

Well I don’t know. I guess it’s a relief for you, but what have you really learnt from this experience?

Seems like you really ride on the borderline of what’s acceptable and what isn’t. I guess we all do, although sorry to see the kind of gruelling unpleasant experience you had to go through.

I must say, I rarely ever feel ‘threatened’ by another biker - it’s more likely by a 4x4 jeep wavering across the roads erratically looking like he can’t wait to try and mow someone down. Just let any biker chasing you catch up. Then when you’ve sized him up - do the same back :smiley:

This is why I tell everyone to challenge every single penalty notice issued by the police.

I have seen juries find not guilty in the most ridiculous of cases. Literally where everyone in the court room sits there gobsmacked, and on the tiniest of little things.

Saw a jury find not guilty, in the face of overwhelming evidence, due to the police officers having slightly different times of the event, and we not talking hours, merely minutes, 8:51pm compared to 8:54pm. Everyone in the court room was shocked at that one, even the defendant and his barrister looked amazed.

Congratulations on avoiding the charge though, did seem a bit excessive given what i saw on the video.

If the video you linked to is of you then you are repeatedly recorded over taking on solid white lines and at one point it look like you over took a vehicle on solid white lines on a blind summit.

With 11 points on your license regardless of how you got them, you seriously need to improve the safety aspect of your riding before you cause an incident.

I think you where extremely lucky with the result. Now learn from it. If you felt threatened by the riding style of the biker behind, why the hell did you not slow down and allow him to pass? Or simply pull over?

What’s remarkable about the video is how restrained Sheraz and his mates riding is - you can go out any weekend and see numerous sportsbikes screaming past you - or more likely on this site - you are that screaming sportsbike.I’m guessing Shiraz and his mate were taking a breather and riding sensibly in quite heavy traffic after having a real blat on suitable roads.

Yes - there are a few infringements there - but nothing that was criminally dangerous or likely to end in a smash - like some of the riding you see - and nothing that you or I probably don’t do every day if we are being honest.

And as for: The biker was shifting his body weight from left to right…when used at road speeds it can adversely affect the handling characteristics of a motorcycle…

WTF!? That’s just mendacious - and deliberately designed to influence a judge who probably knows jack all about bikes and will take the expert witnesse’s word for it - yes it can adversly affect the handling charachteristics if you are setting out to adversly affect your handling charachterisitics by shifting your body weight - but he wasn’t was he? Instead he was shifting his bodyweight to improve the handling charachteristics of his motorcycle because he is an experienced rider and knows what he’s doing. :doze:

I’m amazed that the officer thought that was worth a pull - he must know that there are far more obvious/deserving targets out there.

Well done for contesting and getting off Shiraz!

Yup, what Kev said!
Also, your lines are all wrong. Study the video carefully and you’ll see the lines of the video bike, you need to be on these.:slight_smile:

You were much too close to the vehicles in front of you, especially the van. Think triangle of death when you’re that close, you can’t see far enough ahead to be safe.

I really have to agree with the officers comments, consider your self very very lucky to walk away from court with the result you did.

Get yourself on an IAM course near you, one day it may save your life.:slight_smile: I would much rather tear apart a live riders riding and suffer his wrath, than mourn a dead rider.

I was always told to stick to 30’s, 40’s, and 50’s ( almost impossible at times I know :wink: ) because the greater chance of getting caught will be in these zones.

Why don’t you come on one of Marks Friday night runs? I can show you a few lines and give you a few tips.:slight_smile:

well done with the court result!:smiley:

Maybe I should ask, what do you mean by lines here Puppy, a lot of the time they were in traffic so not exactly free to move about and were aware of what was infront of them, so I am not sure what you mean. I learnt a great deal from following you, that but that was on open roads.I agree with you about them being too close, but several riders I know of on this site ride in exactly the same manner, I believe it is designed to make sure that the car driver can see you as big as possible in their mirrors and therefore make room for you. I think it is a tactic to riding involving some intimidation. If you watch closely the riders always hang on the very right hand edge of the vehicle infront…they are not center line, they can see ahead of the vehicle most of the time by looking down the side, and if there is an emergency they are in a position to dodge around the vehicle. At least I think that is the thoughts behind it.

I agree, I don’t like it either. I think it is a style of riding that some people adopt rather then an error or lack of understanding.

+1 on them points… i think the extended following postion is the way forward if you want vision ahead for overtakes, one of your overtakes was over a solid white line…BIG no no.

can i ask…did you notice the bike behind you? i’m onbe of the most paranoid riders with regards to whos riding behind me!

nice one on the court result.

good darts with the verdict mate :slight_smile:

As Ninjajunkie said, there wasn’t anything there that we all don’t do from time to time, and although I agree with the officers comments, I think it may have been a bit harsh to issue a summons on the traffic infringements. Sheraz would have gained a lot more from just being pulled over and had a good talking to. At least that way he would have been able to see where he was going wrong and the possible consequences of those actions.
The only thing you learn from a court summons is how traumatic and costly it is.

When I talk about lines, I’m talking about placing your bike in a position that allows you the greatest angle of view of the exit of the corner. Watch the video and you’ll see the first left hander is a classic example of this. The officer places his bike almost on the white line in the crown of the road to give him a better view of what may be round the next corner. As the video progresses there is a combination of left and right hand bends. Sheraz is on the left on the left hander and on the line on the right hander. When you do this you can seriously restrict your view of the road ahead. Not only that, but imagine the consequences of leaning right over on a right hander and having a very wide artic coming the other way.

I’m no expert, but I defo don’t think the riding in this video was bad enough to be called “riding without due care and attention”.

I for one am glad you got off for this one.

What Puppy and Kevsta said.

You need to work on your positioning. I take it you took your BikeSafe after the event, as that’s one of the first things you should have picked up on that day.

You were also consistently overtaking on double whites, even in bends, and you were following too closely, especially the van; had he stopped all of a sudden, you wouldn’t have stood a chance.

Get some advanced training before you kill yourself. IAM or Rospa, or any of the other specialist training courses.

Well…it’s not a ‘Careless’ by any stretch of the imagination…I’m surprised CPS entertained it.

As for the riding…i guess this will offend you but it’s very,very poor.

You are sitting on cars backsides way too close…all this will do is distract the driver from the road in front to his rear view mirror…it will also aggravate drivers as well…

The overtakes on the solid whites are ‘just’ legal however on at least one occassion you clearly cross the lines.

I think 3pts and a £60 fine for the solid white offence would have done…once you were summonsed for Careless you were always going to get off.

And as for the being intimidated bit by the covert bike…eh?

I saw nothing other than a third bike following at a safer distance from the vehicle in front (you) and certainly nothing of an intimidating nature.

sorry, +1 on this, I can see why they didn’t bother with your friend, if they had stuck you with the crossing a white line or the 67 in a 50 it would have been a done deal. with all the moving about on the bike, you looked like you might need one of these

Kevsta

If the video you linked to is of you then you are repeatedly recorded over taking on solid white lines and at one point it look like you over took a vehicle on solid white lines on a blind summit.

Kevsta, I agree the riding was not that great, particularly the tailgating of other vehicles, but there is nothing in law to stop you overtaking on solid white lines (though it’s best to ride clear of them).

The legality is crossing solid white lines, something the pursuit bike seems to be doing more than once.

The charge was inappropriate for the second rider, a simple speeding nick would have been correct and almost indefensible.

From the video evidence, the lead rider should have been the one charged with the more serious offence.

My view is that the court reckoned that the police/CPS overplayed their hand and cocked up, which makes sheraz a very lucky bunny.

sheraz, im glad you won this because really you were not ridding like a tw@t.

iv seen much much worse ridding on a friday night LB ridout…

+1

A lot of people need to brush up on their highway code ;).

I got one last year as I realised I hadn’t seen one in about 16 years. It surprising the assumptions that are made and circulated such as the overtaking on solid lines. Totally acceptable as long as you don’t cross them (and then obviously the exceptions to the rule).

Must admit the riding, although not perfect, is quite restrained and I think the copper was being pretty tough to send that one for ‘without due care’. Maybe a speeding fine or even a telling off would have been better.

Either way, good result though, to beat the system must feel pretty good :smiley:

Nothing wrong with my knowledge of highway code, and I never mentioned the technically of the overtake.

If my memory serves me correct this has been done to death on here and with the help of JohnSE looking up regulations you can overtake as long as you keep within the white lines. However it needs to be done safely and at your own risk.

However the video in question does show him breaching the white lines. You must stay within the white lines or the offence is committed.

Sorry Kev but i didn’t see this in this vid. I thought the riding was calm and controlled, ok maybe a little too close to the white van but come on i have seen worse riding by cyclists:w00t: