Hi, I have received a letter today from Metropolitan Police stating that my speed limit has been exceeded by 12mph over speed limit 50mph. The letter was sent 10 days after they clocked me down. I’m shitting my pants now as I would expect more of this in my letter box. I have started my new job and a406 was the best route to take. I have been flying on this road every day now without realising what’s coming up. I’m scared they were clocking me everyday so there is a huge chance my licence can be taken away (GOD please don’t let this happen). I think just is there is a chance of this ticket is coming from an unmarked police car instead of those speed average cameras?
Also, today I’ve tried staying within the speed limit, but it’s so dangerous. You can not even defend your own space on the road when cars are passing you. Any advice please…?
Remember you have 10%, plus your Speedo is usually over calibrated. So in a 50 mph average spèed zone, stick to 58 ish and you should be ok. That should be enough to keep up with the traffic.
On the NIP it will say where the offence was committed. It should also say whether it was an average speed or not. Type the location into Google (or go and ride to it) and go and have a look on street view or in person. From there you’ll most likely see a lamp post or something with a safety camera sign on it. Then go and pan around and see if you can see a Gatso. If you can’t see a Gatso then you’ve been done by a mobile camera van. If it’s a mobile camera van then it’s un likely you’ll have been done every day because they move those around. If it was a Gatso then again it’s unlikely you got done every day because you’d have seen it flash, probably slowed down for it or slowed down because the traffic around you slowed down having seen it.
You may get offered the speed awareness course if you are lucky. If you are then do it but stay on top of the admin because sometimes you have to chase them. The course is actually pretty good and saves you 3 points, however, you still have to declare it with most insurers so it’s like 3 bonus points. Still better than 3 regular points.
TimR I find myself much safer when I’m controlling trafic - not when the trafic is controlling me. Also as I said before sticking to the speed limit today I was getting rather annoyed and wanting end up this jurney asap wasn’t enjoying my ride at all. That is all about enjoying it. We all love bikes just for one reason - to have a fun on them. That’s why many bikers are using this option and are getting wet, cold etc instead of being like a rat in underground tunnels. Anyway this is just my opinion And I respect other road users. Just wanted to warn you guys that for sure all those new cameras on a406 with led lights pointing into ground are deffinately active. I pray now that this ticket is the last one as I’ve been speeding for 10 days in a row on this road and passing all them cameras.
Joby thank you! Your words mean a lot! Hopefully happened like u say!
If you get 10 fines and 30 points, saying as you give up the licence at 12 do you still have to pay the rest of the fines? What happens to the further 18 points?
I’d be more concerned I might be in line for a Custodial Sentence.
I’d doubt if 10 FPN’s would happen at some point it gets referred to the Courts. However, they all count and on top of the £1,000’s in fines a Custodial Sentence could be imposed, have a read here Britain-worst-drivers-Motorists-51-POINTS-shamed-DVLA
As per the report you don’t necessarily give up your licence at 12 points if you can prove it would cause exceptional hardship. Although how the young lady from Oxford argued that losing her provisional license would cause such exceptional hardship beggars belief and clearly demonstrates how out of touch our Magistrates are!
It must be a common situation for someone to trigger cameras on the same route for several days before receiving their first NIP and realising but we don’t hear about these. I am therefore guessing that the drivers lack of knowledge or the grouping of the offences are somehow taken into account.
If I were a gambling man, for multiple FPN’s at the same or nearby locations and assuming he was only ever 20% above the posted limit, I’d wager on a thick wedge of hard earned and a 12 week ban max.
6 points within two years of gaining your first full licence of any type. So if you have had a car licence for five years it doesn’t matter if you have 6 points within 6 months of passing your bike test.
Also, points gained before you pass are triggered by the first points gained after you pass for the 6 point retest. So cut down or missing L plates are a really stupid idea. If you get pulled and are given the 3 points per plate, you get to retest if you got any points at all in the first two years once you pass your car or bike test (whichever comes comes first).
Note that retest means you start from scratch. Theory, CBT and two part test!
I thought the “10% + 2mph” was a guideline, not a law.
I saw an article, somewhere within the last year, that one police force was prosecuting for 1mph over the speed limit in a certain area, which I think was on a stretch of the M1.
No idea how speeding by over 20% is less dangerous tha not sticking to limit but there we go
I understand Matty's position, and have written on this topic here before.
My commute last year was through the A40 average cameras. Keeping to an indicated 44 - 45 mph (in a 40 zone) would have vans, and sometimes coaches, a couple of feet behind my tail; the thought of what would happen if I had any wobbles or problems of any sort were scary. When passing the slip roads to Shepherd’s Bush, where lane 1 becomes the turning lane, staying in lane 2 at this speed would guarantee lane 1 passes on my inside, with the usual lane 3 passes on my outside. After a while I made the decision that this was just too dangerous and raised my speed.
Luckily I never received a NIP, nor PCN, and I’m so glad I don’t commute that road this year.
