I thought the police rider sounded way to calm in the commentary !!
Plus of course he’d have to do similar if he’s to keep up with the rider i.e. overtaking over solid whites etc.
I notice he didn’t report an ‘overtaking on solid whites’ when the rider overtook without crossing the lines - something that’s been debated on here a few times.
I think we’ve all got a bit carried away at one point or other when a bike appears nearby, a few times I’ve thought I’ve gone a bit too far then slow down and let the other bike go in front, just in case… one time coming home from work I met another Bandit at the lights and things got rather silly shall we say, knew he wasn’t old bill when a couple of miles down the road he turned off at a junction and went aanother way - on his back wheel :w00t:
Yes! I used to do that - but these days - unless I’m really in the mood - I tell myself - don’t get into a race - chances are you’ll be so fixated on staying ahead of your ‘opponent’ that you’ll forget that speed camera that’s lurking round the corner (this is particularly easy to do in town now that there are so many of the fecking thingsall over the place) and go through it way over the speed limit - say no to the red mist! Plus I like to think I’ve grown up since then - I mean what does it prove?
Saying that I’ve had some really good times chasing/being chased by other bikes - once an R1 rider even bibbed his horn as I turned off - he must have enjoyed it as much as I did!
I happen to think that plod got it very wrong if this was just a regular speeding/dangerous driving gig. Well, what do I know, but when the rider first started being reckless in the restricted zones was the time to call a halt to it. By leaving it longer and longer plod seemed to just risk life-n-limb for no other reason than the sensationalism of it. I am sure that the CPS could have nailed this to$$er with a fraction of that footage. If there had been a collision the “Hindsight” brigade would have had a field day! Whats the date in the top left-hand corner?:Whistling:
But I still think that they * may * have been very wrong to allow this? If I’m wrong then I’m sorry, but it cant be had both ways. If having the public ride like nutters is so dangerous then this guy should have been videoed and not pursued, perhaps by the Police Helicopter that we keep hearing about. Plod could have scored a double whammy for that!
Agreed - they allowed this guy to carry on riding dangerously, and the plod on the bike was also having to ride the same.The guy should have been stopped as soon as he started battering through 30 and 40 limits at silly speeds.Seems like the on-board video was produced as a lesson to us all, rather than a tool for the prosecution case.
they wanted to make a case that could not be refuted, they did not want to do him just for speeding but for the more serious crime of dangerous driving…
Its police sensationalism trying to prove soemthing that it wasnt…
I have watched the video and yes you can say its an accicdent waiting to happen but it didnt…its like saying someone is a criminal and will kill someone in the future so lets put him in jail now…
Dangerous driving is what biking is about every day…but sadly its the car drivers who complaim because bikers can pass them and they dont like that…
High speed in built up areas is silly and will just antagonise the locals so stop doing it…and thats a message to us all…
probably was enjoying it. if you had the sound on the controller asks him if he wants to continue the pursuit to which he replys “he’s fast but not very competant” and then laughs
What was the copper riding as he had problems over 130mph?
Also have to agree that this looked like a race and if the police were really worried about taking him out for speeding they should have stopped him much sooner as they created a dangerous situation
would be interested to know what the biker said when he was nicked
Saying that he rode far too fast for far too long
I have too many times played with a car or another bike but not for that long and not on those types of roads.
On the police webpage it says that this was a sting carried out after a number of complaints about the same rider… or was it different riders each time?
Police report about the incident mention that it was related to complaints from drivers and residents about a motorcycle driving fast and dangerously on a daily basis…
I think that guy deserve what happen to him. Not for the 130+mph but for the high speed on residential area and riding in a manner that make cager take the time to call in coppers to complain…
Don’t scare anyone while you ride and you should be fine could be the moral of the story.
I cant see the point of racing on the public highway between cagers like that, it just gives us all a really bad name we don’t really want. I just got pinged doing 37 in a 30 by Tower Bridge trying to get my Bird out of the way of a gaggle of cagers and I’m gutted about that, but seeing this video makes me sick, it just gives fuel to put in more cameras and supply more plain police bikes. It’s so wrong to do that speed between cagers.
Sorry if I sound woosie but we don’t need more bad press.
I think that a helicopter would have not only been safer, but also better because this guy was prolly in part playing up to the rider behind. So a more acurate display of the idiots riding would have been gleened. Realistically how many riders would have followed a rider at those speeds in those circumstances? I would guess the minute they arrived at the built up areas, almost all riders would have slowed considerably!
Its nothing like that! 140mph on those Dual Carriage Ways at best is double the limit. The copper had assessed what the guy was capable of in terms of committing offences and he had determined that the perp lacked any real riding skill. How many miles do you have to let it carry on before you stop it bearing in mind the complaints are about safety and the law. The rider was flouting safety and flouting the law?
I think the all the contributors to this thread are agreed that this rider is a ninney and deserves all he got. I dont think that the copper wasnt always at much lesser risk of getting taken out than the twitt he was following. Even tho he has more skill and experience in his pencil than the perp has. I am really not sure about this whole gig. If it was planned as said by plod, a helicopter should’ve been the way to do it:P
IMO not a bad display of fast riding … didn’t think the guy’s cornering lines looked *that * bad (in the wet too).
On the other hand, i agree with a few others’ comments that the copper played ‘cool’ and waited too long before pulling… may have just been a police training vid?? we only saw from 15:00 mins to 30 odd mins of footage… a good 15 mins of hooning. had the copper just pulled up close enough for a shot of his plate after doing a few wrongs, then let him be off and catch him when he got home, or just set up a road block down the way, could save the potential of accidents. … still think it’s a training vid… the guy even obeyed the offside rule at 19:70 & 19:80
at 30:10, undertaking on dual carriageway … is this breaking the law? or was it cos he’s speeding? still good to see police roadcraft in action
I actually know the guy in this clip and by pure chance was talking with his brother today.
Not defending him in any way as those kind of speeds in 30 and 40 limits are crazy, but he never actually had any moments where he or anyone else had to take evasive action to avoid an accident, probably through pure luck more than anything else. The guy is far from a novice rider, as anyone who follows club racing would know.
Just to put a different slant on things, due to the comments about the police ending the chase to pre-empt an accident… One of the things his brother told me was that during this pursuit, he’d actually stopped to fill up with petrol on the way and the cop on the unmarked bike actually pulled into a layby before the petrol station, waited for him to come out again and followed him the rest of the way to work but this footage has been conveniently omitted from the police evidence. If this is true, then the police surely have a case to answer for not ending the pursuit when they had a clear opportunity to do so safely without exposing the rider, pedestrians or other motorists to further danger but maybe they were more interested in getting their sensationalist footage?
And just to put things in perspective, on the same day he was in court, a heroin dealer at the same court was fined and given 60 hours community service. So whats worse, the heroin dealer caught redhanded or the nutcase on the motorbike who may have caused an accident, but didn’t?
