Is ‘Tyre’ the only software I can pre-plan rides on and then upload to my tomtom? I’m bloody sick of it as some recent updates to it seem to have made it dumb-assed. Input welcome…
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I use ITN Converter version 1.92 http://www.benichou-software.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1&Itemid=4&lang=en
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Both these options look very promising, cheers fellas. I’m sure I’ll post back with some newb questions but in the meantime, thanks!
I just use the standard TomTom web app and phone app route planner (MyDrive) which syncs to the device. Got us all around the alps and Dolomites this year.
I find Tyre unnecessarily complex and unintuitive. TomTom got their new software right IMO - a good balance between ease of use and functionality.
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hmmm this could be even more useful as it looks like i can use this on my mac rather than using the PC? as my tom-tom doesn’t have wifi i guess i download the gpx route from mydrive and simply load to my tom-tom?
My TomTom uses a Bluetooth connection to my phone to access the web for syncing. Does yours?
well it does use bluetooth obviously to link to phone and headset but don’t think i can sync to the web on it. will have a look… no by the looks of things my rider has no my drive app on it… it’s pretty old now so probably why…
So tomtom’s new software doesn’t support their slightly older hardware. Nice one tomtom. My rider 5 doesn’t support .gpx files. It’s supposed to be able to convert them on the unit but it doesn’t work. A lot of these converting pieces of software don’t work on Mac. So looks like I’m stuck with the PC.
It’s just ridiculous that the world of motorcycle satnavs seems to be about 15 years behind the rest of technology.
update: have found a workaround. basically plot route on MyDrive, download .gpx file, convert on mac to .itn file using RouteConverterMac and then copy on to sat nav. will test it out on monday but so far looks good 
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That’s the world of dedicated satnavs in general. Motorbike ones are even worse. I do think you really have to have a very strong fondness for waterproof power connections and resistive-touch screens to keep throwing £400-odd at dedicated units these days, though I do keep finding myself thinking it a more and more reasonable idea…
That’s what I did for a while, then I bought one then wished I’d done it years ago…
I’m of the ‘why did I not do this years ago school’ too. For too many years I made do with my old Tomtom One with rolled back v7 software and a custom hacked menu so it would have the Itinerary function. Eventually succumbed to a Tomtom Rider when https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk sent me an email with the Rider 40 on offer at 40% off the RRP making it <£200
The older 4 series Riders were:
Rider 40 Western European mapping (25 countries).
Rider 400 As Rider 40 plus Eastern European mapping too (45 countries)
Rider 410 As Rider 400 plus the premium 100 Great Rides pre-installed.
All still available if you shop around but now updated by the 500, 550 and 550 Premium Rides series all of which come with a faster processor, text to speech software plus Wi-Fi, Google Now and Siri compatibility all for an additional £100 on the RRP price tag 
I’ve always used dedicated Garmin Units, 550, 660 and now 590LM. Similar to the Tomtom, if you take the time to learn the route planning software you can get great results. There is a learning curve though and it can be (will be) frustrating at first. That said there are lots of online communities to help you.
Some of the technology will fall behind the latest smart phone, but I’ve found that they do one job and one job well which is enough for me.
Tablet + Waze = best navigation, incident re-routing and Police warnings! 
Of course, we’re at risk of losing our hard-earned normal mobile data rate with Brexit coming 
Any chance of a teach in Joby? Your YT vlios are great but I got lost so I’d pay for a lesson.
Yeah, I think they’re fine things to want, it’s just it’s a fairly huge premium price and felixibility-wise essentially for a better bracket and charger setup.
So my workaround worked fine. Had a good little ride on Monday and have converted all my old ride routes using MyDrive and the Mac converter so should be all good.
The frustration for me was Tyre based. Now with that out of the equation it seems much better. But the only real answer is to stump up some cash for one of their more recent units as that all seems to work pretty seamlessly.
For me a sat nav is essential. They’re worth their weight on a European trip and good for finding new runs out in the countryside in this country.
Is there anything in particular that’s done that? All the dedicated ones just seem so much less capable and convenient than using a phone, except for the connector and I’m really wondering if there’s some featureset or something that I’ve never asked for and nobody’s thought to mention.
Or is it just the general convenience of it being designed to sit on your bars and show directions, and that general “do one thing and do it well”?
My old TomTom Rider Pro is better than my phone for straight routing and how it’s displayed .
It’s more clunky to program multiple way points but that’s probably due to its age.
For using on the bike the TomTom is better.
For the offroading part my phone is better though this is due to my TomTom not having the maps to display off-road sections. I believe the Garmin Montana’s can have different types of maps on them, hence why they are popular with travellers.
I’ve just planned my route home with tom tom as I have to go along Pentonville road where its closed