tugged many yesterday & I’m certainly sure the same today! - especially cage’s! :pinch:
What did u tug the cagers for? Driving with no helmet??? :w00t:
Yeh, i agree its summer and its the gear or no gear debate…but isnt it funny how every year it happens?..and how many times have i heard, “oh, i will take the chance, im only going up the road”, or…“yeh but its SO hot”…im with the others where if you can afford a motorbike, tax and insurance, you can afford bike gear…what do these people wear in the winter then, sheepskin coats and boots?
Know its a free state etc…but think that motorbike gear should be compulsory if you are into bikes…or anything that can be deemed a potential danger to your health, ie whatever past time or hobby you are involved in…make sure they wear the proper gear, dont you think?..after all, they make us use our seat belts now and we cant use mobiles while driving, or we are fined…why cant they do the same when they see these people in charge of a scooter/bike and only have trainers,shorts,t-shirts,no gloves…? Pull em over and tell em they cant ride on in that state, lets see how fast they go out and buy gear when they have to leave their bike on the side of the road …;)…rather that than scraping em up off the tarmac…as for taking kids on the back of bikes without proper clothing?..thats almost as bad as child abuse…if they kill that kid its manslaughter…and a lifetime of guilt.
Someone once described their road-rash as like running a fillet steak down a cheese-grater. :ermm:
i will always wear my protective jacket and gloves come rain or shine but am admittedly slack about protective trousers.
i know the risks and will only have myself to blame if i come off (which i have done on more than one occasion) i’m not one to preach to anybody about anything and if the worse thing i do in life is get on my bike in jeans then i don’t think thats too bad.
I don’t think I’d ever say anything to anyone about it, each to their own etc. so I’m glad it’s not a legal requirement. Doesn’t stop me thinking they’re idiots and if they come off then no NHS for them please, they did it to themselves knowing the risks and didn’t care enough about their safety to wear the gear, so make them pay for their expensive medical care.
Anyone taking kids out on bikes without the safety gear should be pulled over and chucked in prison for a nice stretch… That or a good hard punch to the face, I’m not fussy.
People should be allowed to put themselves in danger all they want (to a point anyway), just as long as it doesn’t put anyone else at risk. 
was on holiday in Rhodes a few years back; saw the hotel manager hop onto his bike in t-shirt,shorts, flipflops and no lid…thought each to his own you’re going to hurt one day mate…then he gets his 6 yr old kid to hop on the back in same state of dress…
you’re free to risk your skin if you want but if anything happened to that kid, its manslaughter…***ing gets me really angry 
whine on all you like about free will, protect my rights , blaa blaa blaa, smack ya head on the pavement and rid the gene pool of your thick genes but dont drag minors into it…told him what we thought, he didnt give a cr@p of course
:w00t: Turkey has now brought in the “helmet” law and the police are actually stopping people without one --125 Ytl fine (50 quid) BUT it is perfectly ok to have your wife , mother-in-law and your 2 kids on the bike and , believe it or not - they don’t need helmets:w00t: The bike cops ride around 2-up and only therider wears a helmet… Crazy or what???:D:D:D On reflection, perhaps it’s acceptable in the case of the mother-in-law;)
People should be allowed to put themselves in danger all they want (to a point anyway), just as long as it doesn’t put anyone else at risk. 
And if they pay for taking these risks from their own pocket rather than yours and mine (well mine really!)
then I agree with you:w00t:
We’ve all done - we’ve all loved it.
Its nice to have the option.
Someone once described their road-rash as like running a fillet steak down a cheese-grater. 
Mine was not too good - probably gave the most pain of all my damage. I got down to the bone at the top of my back which was a worry for a time;) Worst of all was the nurse who came round to clean it off now and again…she used hydrogen peroxide solution - no really - far worse than falling off which oddly caused me no pain at the time… I was,it seems ,worried about the bike - an MZ125:w00t: in my defence I had just had a clump to the head:D
this is what happend when you come off in a t-shirt…
DONT DO IT!! wear protective clothing…cos belive you me this was a painfull experience for a mate of mines cousin.
i really don’t understand these folk when the sun comes out…
the other day i saw a guy in flip-flops shorts and vest top on a big 1300cc susuki!..and he was driving like he stole it too!..
if he comes off it’s total chees grater isn’t it…
girls on vespa lx’s in high heels skirt top etc…nice legs but when they come off, not so nice and they wont be wearing a skirt again…
i would rather sweat and have the protection. …
i remember a 10mph off and really cutting up my right knee!..i was wearing normal jeans.
why dont folk just spend the cash!..?
I’m sure I’ve seen that guy on the BM a couple of times (big aluminium panniers?) and he does seem to be riding rather erratically! While filtering in a queue of bikes he sat behind me for ages revving his engine then suddenly whipped out and overtook me and the two bikes in front before getting to the traffic island a few metres ahead and having to slam the anchors on and wait with the rest of us for the lights to change! It’s a bit worrying that a very similar BM seems to be cropping up on a lot of posts recently- could this be the same rider?
I had to smile yesterday at a set of lights on the A10. There sat a fella on a blue R1 with the obligatory shorts and vest. He was sitting next to a girl on a lovely 900 Blade with all the right gear on.
The lights changed, the girl launched as a steady pace, R1 whizzed past her with its front wheel in the air which came crashing down, causing a massive wobble:D
The girl shook her head leading me to think she was as unimpressed as I was:D:D:D
I expect the R1 pilot will have a raw beefburger on his elbow before the week is out;)
And while we are at it we can stop treating people on the NHS who have smoking related illnesses, alcohol related illnesses, drug related illnesses, cagers not wearing seatbelts, people who hurt themselves playing football on a Sunday morning. The list goes on and on, we take risks doing all kinds of things without thinking about it. At the end of the day the biker has been paying all sorts of tax to ride their bike so they are entitled to NHS care just like anyone else.
I totally agree about the kids on bike thing. They should be prosecuted for endangering life or some other such thing!
Hmmmmm might ‘pop up’ to North Wales to see if mine fancies a lift to the shops 
I think they whould pay a proportion of their repair costs. This country has got to the stage now where everybody seems to think that “it’s somebody else’s fault” or the govt will pay for it etc etc, I’m all for freedom to do what you likew, but if you don’t take simple basic precautions then you should have to pay a proportion of your costs. How many racers do you see in shorts and tea shirts ? Smokers do pay for the costs, as do drinkers. Cagers with no seatbelts, bikers without proper clothing, climbers and cavers without correct kit, car racers etc all in the same category - take some sensible, reasonable care of yourself and you can and should expect to be taken care of if the worst happens but act like a knob and I think you should accept some of the consequencies of doing that.
And while we are at it we can stop treating people on the NHS who have smoking related illnesses, alcohol related illnesses, drug related illnesses, cagers not wearing seatbelts, people who hurt themselves playing football on a Sunday morning. The list goes on and on, we take risks doing all kinds of things without thinking about it. At the end of the day the biker has been paying all sorts of tax to ride their bike so they are entitled to NHS care just like anyone else.
Smokers pay a lot more tax than we do on bikes… It still doesn’t cover the costs to the country of a smoking population - hence the drive to reduce the habit. They (the Government) aren’t doing this because they care about the populations health - they are doing it because of the cost:) Smoking will ,sooner or later, become a thing of the past and then they’ll target another area.
Quite frankly, the point about Sunday football players is cobblers…If somebody wants to run around playing football ,naked and with no boots ,there’s no point coming crying to me when he gets a kick in the knacke+s;)
rusty (08/05/2008)
Stranger (08/05/2008) Doesn’t stop me thinking they’re idiots and if they come off then no NHS for them please, they did it to themselves knowing the risks and didn’t care enough about their safety to wear the gear, so make them pay for their expensive medical care.
Anyone taking kids out on bikes without the safety gear should be pulled over and chucked in prison for a nice stretch… That or a good hard punch to the face, I’m not fussy.
People should be allowed to put themselves in danger all they want (to a point anyway), just as long as it doesn’t put anyone else at risk.
And while we are at it we can stop treating people on the NHS who have smoking related illnesses, alcohol related illnesses, drug related illnesses, cagers not wearing seatbelts, people who hurt themselves playing football on a Sunday morning. The list goes on and on, we take risks doing all kinds of things without thinking about it. At the end of the day the biker has been paying all sorts of tax to ride their bike so they are entitled to NHS care just like anyone else.
I totally agree about the kids on bike thing. They should be prosecuted for endangering life or some other such thing!
I think they whould pay a proportion of their repair costs. This country has got to the stage now where everybody seems to think that “it’s somebody else’s fault” or the govt will pay for it etc etc, I’m all for freedom to do what you likew, but if you don’t take simple basic precautions then you should have to pay a proportion of your costs. How many racers do you see in shorts and tea shirts ? Smokers do pay for the costs, as do drinkers. Cagers with no seatbelts, bikers without proper clothing, climbers and cavers without correct kit, car racers etc all in the same category - take some sensible, reasonable care of yourself and you can and should expect to be taken care of if the worst happens but act like a knob and I think you should accept some of the consequencies of doing that.
+1
Yes - I’ve seen quite a few folks in t shirts, shorts and even flip flops and sandals!! I’ve also seen a woman riding round the Wandsworth one way system in high heels on a big bike!! V diffficult to work the gears:)I’m not sure where I stand on this one, because I agree that people should have an element of choice about what they do, within the law, and we are able to choose whether to be sensible or stupid in many different areas of life. It’s stupid to ride a bike without the correct gear, but it also could be considered stupid to smoke, to cycle without a helmet, to get drunk, to break the speed limit etc etc. As adults people should be able to choose to be stupid, as long as their stupidity doesn’t impact on others and is not illegal.
I wear protective clothing purely because I’ve been in hospital in two motorcycle accidents and if I hadn’t had a back protector on in the last accident, I probably wouldn’t be riding a bike now! So I’d rather be safe than sorry. However, I often cycle on my push bike to the shops etc with no cycle helmet - which is pretty stupid, so I’m inconsistent in my approach. As we all probably are to a degree!:)