So why you think this guy crashed?

Couldn’t really see why this guy lost it, any opinions. Says 4 laps in, should have warm tyres by then, but I don’t know the circuit, could be like brands with only a few left handers? The guy was a bit choppy going in, but by the time the rear tyre loses grip he seems smooth on the throttle.

Just wondered what your opinions were on it?

cant see too much from that but he was going real fast though :w00t:

I’m looking forward to a decent reply too, though even that corner before looked a bit iffy … as if he was putting the power on too full on while too leaned over, perhaps relying on the bike hi-tech too much. God knows what his tyres were like though.

Glad he managed to switch the camera to slow-mo before he came off though :stuck_out_tongue:

That’s slowed down at the end isn’t it? Even so he seemed to hold onto it for ages. Don’t know what he did to lose it, but I reckon holding onto it was what helped him break his ankle.

Well my genius reply is he leant too far and lost the rear!

It’s adverse cambered, maybe the track dropped away a bit?

Looks like he/she shut the trothel…(rubbish spelling I know). The revs drop sharply… and might have high-sided if the rear wheel gripped stearing out of it. Might have cooked the tyre.

Sorry … that wasn’t staged for the camera?

Assuming it was all fast as you suggest, at which point does a clear turn like that turn into a low side INSTEAD of the expected highside … unless of course the rider is COMPLETELY and UTTERLY in control and knew he was going down … in which case, why are you asking questions like “I wonder why this happened?”

So, back to square one, you sure this wasn’t staged?

could’ent say why he lost it, but fantastic bit of footage, actually looks into camera before it all goes tits up…

Well, reading the comments on the YouTube vid, it’s at least proof that praying doesn’t help…

It’s a bit of an expensive staging though don’t you think? Binning a £13,000 sportsbike for 2 minutes of fame on Youtube? Only has 4,000 views in a month, hardly viral.

I think you being a bit over cynical there Toby. Also watch how the bike comes down, it ain’t that far off falling on him, I doubt anyone who did that on purpose is going to hang on as long as he did.

I don’t think he closed the throttle before the accident, in reply to whomever posted that. I know it slows down, but his was pretty smooth on getting the power down.

Also don’t think high revs is the culprit either, his revs are nowhere near the limiter, he is putting down the power pretty smoothly.

I think it has to be cold tyres + too much lean angle but that seems at odds with what he has said.

Well as a S1000RR owner, I can tell you, the first thing that strikes me as bloody odd there, is there’s NO traction control light flashing on the fash. Which means one of two things:

  1. He turned it off, which I just don’t believe anyone would do at the track.
  2. He had cold tyres and the tyres just slid off the edge without any loss of wheel speed (so no TC warning).

Four laps might not be enough to warm the tyres up if:

  1. The tarmac is cold
  2. He’s not pushing enough heat into the tyres

Also, choppy throttle is no way to ride a bike around a track. Smooth = fast = safe.

It’s also odd why he hasn’t set the gear-shift light. It’s flashing at half rev’s, wtf?

Should have let go of the bike! Holding on always hurts!

In the comments he says the Traction Control was on. But I don’t know enough…also can’t you set the white gear light up to come on at different rev ranges? God knows why you would have it set to low revs, but might be a reason?

cause ‘his ambition outweighs his talent’? :rolleyes:

Pan’s pretty much got it. Whatever the cause, there was not enough grip available for what the rider wanted to do.

from what I can see, his throttle was anything but smooth going into that corner which won’t have helped the bike/suspension.

Then he is accelerating and leaning until he runs out of tyre, the back didn’t high side, he didn’t close of the throttle as he felt the tyre lose grip as it wasn’t the tyre breaking traction he simply just fell off the tyre.

maybe he did CSS, had in his mind “constant throttle roll on” and forgot he had 190bhp and the tyre has a limit

Think i gotta agree with Leon on that steve.

ps enjoy the peaks.

FWIW, when I did CSS - on the throttle roll on drill I was basically leaning into acceleration. So leaning further and further, and accelerating harder and harder and got pulled off 3 laps running as the guy said eventually you won’t judge it correctly and will just fall over…

not too dissimilar to that video tbh

Dunno about the instructor on that day, but I’ve not read or heard anything about the above in any of Keith Code’s stuff…

…but yeah, as I said before the guy got to maximum lean then the track slightly adverse cambered = fell off the tyre.

Its because its not in there :laugh: I was doing it wrong! as is this guy. You should judge your corner entry speed better, not go in slow and accelerate hard round the corner leaning further and further as you go. At the time, I didn’t really think what I was doing was dangerous but seeing this think he had a point!