Looks like the car pulled out and clipped him rather than the other way round…Very sad.
Horrible. That sent shivers down my spine.
Very traggic indeed and I can’t imagine how the driver of the camper van felt/feels! :crying: Must have been a horric scene 
My ex-partner had something similar when a bike clipped a car on the opposite carriageway, went under his wheels and died. The whole thing left him very traumatised for many years, I don’t think he ever got over it.
That’s horrific. poor fella.
But riders of high performance bikes shouldn’t be mixing these speeds with traffic.
It’s not just the impact it has on the families - it’s the impact it’s going to have on biking - it will give the anti-bike lobby all the ammo they need to bring in 100 bhp limits and the like.
Just show a bit of restraint and pick the appropriate moments and places to explore your bikes potential.
R.I.P fella
but what happened to that ****** car driver who clearly pulled out without looking and forced him across the road ?
Maybe he saw the bike but wasn’t expecting it to be closing at 100 mph
v.horrible news
R.I.P
From the stills on the news articale you can’t clearly see what happened, to me it looks like the car driver went to overtake the silver mondeo and the biker came along and clipped the car, as others have said, the driver would have had plenty of time for the overtake if the biker had not been going so fast. Still very sad whatever happened.
you can read what was happening a mile off!!! the cars about to overtake the other car…bikes way too close to the car to read whats going on …feel for all partys involved though!!! sad news:crying:
very tragic.
dont think anyone should speculate or guess based on a still
at end of the day, he was caught doing frankly ridiculous speeds on roads with other traffic, and him and his family paid the ultimate price.
I hate that “D” word, really makes me feel ill when i hear it mentioned in accidents
Saw the full video and the car pulled out to overtake but would not have expected the bike to be closing at such high speed…Terrible for all involved.
RIP fella!!
Saw the video and it made me sick.
As per usual, the media gets the info wrong. They were doing 170mph on another road, when this accident happened the rider behind was doing 78mph, the guy who died was obviously going faster but not doing 170mph.
Its statements like those that make things look a lot worse.
sticking the video in this post:) since I made a reporst by mistake.
http://londonbikers.com/forums/Topic578873-58-1.aspx
The video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn7R3RScL28
Like I said before, very unfortunate. Naughty riding yeah, but no less than most of us. Accelerating that fast after the roundabout… probabaly bad decision, car not checking behind… well… cager not expecting bikers to show up.
I always see bikers coming behind me when I drive, I see them ahead of most drivers since I actually check my mirrors for bikers and not for vans and whatever else they glimpse for. It drives me nuts when I see the other drivers getting surprised by the filtering/overtaking rider…
Gotta drive/ride like a paranoid person these days, can’t except anyone to pe causious if you decide to be naughty.
You can be am amazing rider/driver but that one time you decide to be silly… the chance is someone else will not see you coming or will simply not avoid you. I have my share of stupidity when I drive/ride cutting some close corners.
Agreed!
Some of the comments on the paper are pishin me off. Everyone attributes speed as the biggest road killer, but believe me it isn’t. It contributes to about 20%…most accidents are caused by stupidity and people not watching what they’re doing.
Accidents like these are glorified in the news and then everyone blames speeding bikers. Most of us probably would have overtaken along there as it was a nice straight. To be honest, with the on coming vehicles I’m surprised the car driver decided to go for it but then the roads down there are wide and have whats called a ‘passing lane’ on the inside to allow cars to move over and let bikers through. Technically the car would have been filtering between vehicles but then that’s allowed isn’t it!!!
Fair enough, the bikers were taking the ****, but who here hasn’t stretched the speed a bit on open roads.
at the end of the day, the mans dead, it dont matter whether it was the car drivers fault, or his fault.We all know this can happen, its a case of how much we want to take the risk.
Ultimately, if your overtaking you should leave plenty of room so that if someone does not see you closing at high speed and pulls out to overtake, you have the space to avoid them, and the acceleration to get past them.
Regardless of what the papers say, the speedo looked like they were doing nearly a hundred, and theres always risk involved at a speed like that with other traffic on the road
Personally I thought they were both riding like knob heads on the A roads. We all do it sometimes, but that was heavy traffic and not the place for it.
If the rider that was killed had been observing properly he wouldn’t have tried to overtake the car. Yes, perhaps the car driver should have looked harder but at the speeds they were going the driver would have had little time to see them. The rider did a poor move on the car and his mate as they came out of the roundabout and may well have been looking in his mirror for a fraction of a second, just enough to not see the car moving out. Also although he was braking, I would have thought he could have braked harder
It just shows how close we all are to a life changing accident.
+1
some of the overtakes in the earlier in the vid were a bit close, very impatient?
the rider who was hit by the car, you can see he braked, on the brakes at that speed he wouldnt have ben able to do much i dont think, steering wise, but then as said if he had been planning and observing better he may have see the silver car tucked in tight to the barrier with the blue car tailgating it and halfway to an overtake, and braked a bit earlier or slowed down a bit.
its tis sad someones lost their life ![]()
but big fast bikes are not toys, they are missles on wheels, always have brain engaged and plan ahead.
be safe people:cool:
Having watched the video the car driver was indicating, and had right of way. The biker was going to fast and not paying enough attention to the road. He made mistakes and paid the ultimate price.
I feel sorry for his family, and those that were caught up in this horrific accident.
Hopefully people will watch that video and learn from his mistake.