What does that mean to bikes?
it means bikes like this
http://lightningmotorcycle.com/
http://www.energicamotor.com/energica-ego-electric-motorcycle/
What about delivery lorry’s?
Time to start collecting petrol vehicles…
It’s a ban on new petrol/diesel cars so presumably doesn’t mean that existing ones will need to be scrapped - France announced something similar last week.
Promises for 20+ years in the future are pretty meaningless anyway as nobody knows what the state of technology will be by then (who knows if petrol cars will still be being made or if petrol will be readily available) and the people making the promises will all have retired (and they can’t keep promises made 6 months in advance). .
Quite, it’s pie in the blue sky thinking… Announce it and worry about it later
Graphene should be available commercially then, which means fast charging (literally seconds to charge a device), but yes it is a moveable feast and there is no guarantee that they will follow through with the ban.
It's a ban on new petrol/diesel cars so presumably doesn't mean that existing ones will need to be scrapped - France announced something similar last week.
Promises for 20+ years in the future are pretty meaningless anyway as nobody knows what the state of technology will be by then (who knows if petrol cars will still be being made or if petrol will be readily available) and the people making the promises will all have retired (and they can't keep promises made 6 months in advance). .
monkimark
VW will probably just wrap their existing engines in duracell coloured panels and claim they’re fully compliant leccy ones…
I like the fact that some bloke from the government has said it’s up to local councils to phase it in.
I think the chances are that the technology will evolve quickly enough to make the ban meaningless - once batteries get good enough, who is going to want a smelly old petrol car apart from the odd enthusiast?
Of course it does require someone to make sure that the infrastructure is in place to support them, which in the short/medium term at least is going to mean a lot more on street charging points. Nobody is going to buy an electric car that they can’t charge and a lot of people in cities (where you really want electric cars) don’t have garages or off street parking.
Also, I wonder how the grid would cope if everyone on my street went out and bought an electric car? I imagine it would cause pretty major problems
It will be a generational shift.
I think the chances are that the technology will evolve quickly enough to make the ban meaningless - once batteries get good enough, who is going to want a smelly old petrol car apart from the odd enthusiast?
Of course it does require someone to make sure that the infrastructure is in place to support them, which in the short/medium term at least is going to mean a lot more on street charging points. Nobody is going to buy an electric car that they can't charge and a lot of people in cities (where you really want electric cars) don't have garages or off street parking.
Also, I wonder how the grid would cope if everyone on my street went out and bought an electric car? I imagine it would cause pretty major problems
monkimark
Us ‘old folk’ (for I will be nudging 70 in 2040) will probably still crave petrol but we will have an entire generation of people who grew up with electric being the norm.If You are born in 2040 and have only ever known electric as a kid then by the time you are driving age then you’ll go for that.
Jay Leno said something interesting in one of the car shows- drawing a parallel between the car and the horse.
The only people who own horses now are really those that love horses.
I don’t need or want a horse to ride about on, I like having cars and bikes.
The electric car will put the combustion engine vehicle into an enthusiasts class of ownership.
I think the chances are that the technology will evolve quickly enough to make the ban meaningless - once batteries get good enough, who is going to want a smelly old petrol car apart from the odd enthusiast?
Of course it does require someone to make sure that the infrastructure is in place to support them, which in the short/medium term at least is going to mean a lot more on street charging points. Nobody is going to buy an electric car that they can't charge and a lot of people in cities (where you really want electric cars) don't have garages or off street parking.
Also, I wonder how the grid would cope if everyone on my street went out and bought an electric car? I imagine it would cause pretty major problems monkimark
Your local transformer would likely blow. If not, brownouts would be the next scenario.
That’s the problem I have (and most of my immediate 100,000 neighbours), nowhere to charge an EV.
I’m announcing that in 2030 I’ll give everyone a cash payment.
On it’s on it is a meaningless statement, it has no legal basis, and isn’t supported by anything. All it is a statement.
How many have been announced by governments over the years that have resulted in nothing?
The electric car will put the combustion engine vehicle into an enthusiasts class of ownership.the main issue with owning an internal combustion engine would be the cost of the fuel
hogtrumpet
petrol / diesel is a common product & in great supply to the consumer
once you take away the market for demand you take away profits
no profits then no supply .
petrol will most probably go first then diesel
its relatively easy to make bio diesel & The engine will have a future
bio diesel also emits a lot less toxins.
Another intersting thought is backup generators. What do you run those on? I don’t mean for trvial things, but rather hospitals et al. Having a battery bank doesn’t quite cut it if you have a sustained outage.
A lot of the newer small ones are gas turbine or gas combustion engines.
Another intersting thought is backup generators. What do you run those on? I don't mean for trvial things, but rather hospitals et al. Having a battery bank doesn't quite cut it if you have a sustained outage.
TheMonkey27
That’s to do with trying to dick around with roads & traffic to reduce current local polution hotspots.
No problem, I’m gonna be upgrading to a steam Hayabusa!
https://ottonero.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/full-steam-ahead.html[quote] I like the fact that some bloke from the government has said it's up to local councils to phase it in. --- Changyammi [/quote]Well there is a lot of undoing the dicking about done to make things slower.That’s to do with trying to dick around with roads & traffic to reduce current local polution hotspots.
Pat
Myself and Nine Mile have met the owner of this and got shown how it works. Impressive piece of engineering!
No problem, I'm gonna be upgrading to a steam Hayabusa!https://ottonero.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/full-steam-ahead.html
Arfa