had a white van man reverse into me this morning. my fault? i of course think he reversed too fast

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYsjHWSwlvc&feature=youtu.be

my bike seems fine (except the squashed mud guard) i hurt my coccyx on landing.

Open and shut case - you couldn’t get clearer headcam footage than that!

Glad you’re feeling ok - although even a slow speed bump like that can give you bruising and pain over the next few days.

It was 100% his fault. No indicator to say he was going to turn/reverse into that road.

Being “hyper-critical” the only thing that you might have done wrong was being so close behind him and being in a road position that meant he couldn’t have seen you - a bit further back and a bit closer to the center of the road and he might have seen you in his mirrors.

Check the bike for damage again - the scratches on the road make me thing there must be some scratches on your bike…

If it is minor scratching tell them that you are willing to accept a goodwill gesture of £150 toward the depreciation of the bike because of the scratching. Chances are the company would rather pay that than have a claim. If that is acceptable get it agreed in writing (or record the conversation) and send them an invoice asap.

completely agree with simon on this…

I had a guy from enterprise knock me off when he was not looking and pulled out on a roundabout… he just accepted the cost and paid me cash the same day. But he was the manager of the local store, not just a driver…

Totally his fault, had he been paying attention earlier he should have been aware you were behind him. Make sure bike is thoroughly checked and riding gear in case of damage before accepting any money which later leaves you put of pocket. Did your lid hit the ground when you fell?

Hi Woozy,

First of all I feel sorry for you mate, glad that you escaped only with few bruises.
Second, yes it is a clear cut, no indicator. no consideration about traffic and other road users, I bet the driver was not aware that you are behind him (I mean all the time, not only when he was reversing).

Now end of comforting, if you in bad mood please do not read it.

Watching video footage, I would say it might be not that clear. During all the time there was only one spot (2-3 sec) when actually driver was able to see you in his mirrors, I doubt that he was looking in them at this time (mostly because he was doing right turn).

So lesson for the future “if you don’t see his mirrors, he’s not going to see you”!

To cheer you up here is my close call today with one suicide attempt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Es_m0krYwA&feature=youtu.be

Regards,
R

Out of interest, can you see the van’s mirrors at any point in the video (apart from on the corner)?

HAHAHAHAHA! first :stuck_out_tongue:

R

Try to stay where van/lorry drivers can see you in their mirrors, to the side, and it’s worth investing in some loud horns like these and always be ready to use them.

:stuck_out_tongue:

p.s what was that in your vid, a cat?

Cheeky squirrel :slight_smile:

R

He said he’s rear view camera Didlt come on in time right?
To my knowledge they constantly on in company vechicles and in personal ones the second you change to reverse they switch on also…

Yes. He said his rear view camera didn’t come on in time

Then he shouldn’t have been reversing, as he essentially admitted he was reversing blind without a clue of what was behind him. But we already know he doesn’t have a leg to stand on…

That camera is worth having. I have one wired in to the bike but I need to get a new bullet camera. My just get a helmet cam - but the remembering to charge it up is the only thing holding me back… Oh that and I can buy it in the States a lot cheaper than here…

Blowing own trumpet time - here is an example of where a REALLY LOUD EXHAUST could have prevented an accident.

Not only would he have heard and therefore been aware of a bike behind but as soon as he started reversing a quick blip (not enough time even to sound horn) would have made him stop.

Yet the EU restrictions want our bikes to be electric-quiet…:unsure:

you got no probs there m8, he gave no time, he stopped and reversed straight away.

even if he did still his fault, you was behind hime a bit of the way and obviously he was not aware you were there at all.

Na, his fault.

Get your bike checked out in case the forks got tweaked.

Get your coccyx checked out, preferably by a attractive female, make sure they cut their finger nails first!!!

Silly place for the driver to be reversing BUT this is a prime example of why you should be positioned where the driver can see you. I’m not saying that its part your fault as it isn’t. You didn’t have a chance to reposition yourself once he started his maneuver.

I drive a van and it gets to me when people ride close to you. Large vehicles have TERRIBLE view points especially vans. No rear view mirrors and large blind spots. Makes it very dangerous for cyclists especially.

Again, not your fault at all. at least the driver was more concerned for your wellbeing when he realized instead of typically trying to bladder you :slight_smile:

We are a right old bunch us drivers :smiley:

Exactly.

I cannot see how this could possibly be viewed as your fault. Most of the time before he turned right you were far enough behind him that he would have seen you in his mirrors - had he been looking, he would have then known there was a possibility that you could have followed him when he turned right. To reverse suddenly and blindly like he did, means that there can be surely no doubt about liability. Straightforward SMIDSY. His camera not working properly, is hardly an appropriate excuse - he should have been doubly careful, giving someone time to sound their horn. There is nothing to demonstrate that he conducted appropriate observation checks or allowed anytime for someone to react to his actions.

I do agree with the others though that, ensuring you can always (or as much as is safely possible) see the mirrors of limited visibility vehicles can help to prevent this sort of thing happening in the future.

Get the bike properly checked over, as well as your kit and yourself. Shock and adrenaline may be covering potential symptoms, best to be sure.

Really pleased you were able to get up and walk away from this - could have been nasty.