As we all know, today has seen Steve Wright found guilty of murdering 5 women in Suffolk.
He has been given 5 life sentances and will spend the rest of his life in prison.
Is this a fair sentance or should cases like this have the option of the death sentance being returned?
What do you think?
chop his b*****ks off!!!
Personally I’ve always been a supporter of the death penalty,but it is never going to return.The bleeding heart liberals and all the lawyers in Government will see to that.Wright certainly deserves it as does the scumbag that has just been found guilty of Sally Anne Bowman’s murder in Croydon.
It’s a difficult one here, and my heart goes out to those families who have lost loved ones, I can understand the anger and people wanting the death penalty.
Personally I don’t think it’s right to take someone elses life . Taking him off the streets for life means he will have the next ultimate punishment.
There’s a few other things that bother me though regarding the death penalty, sooner or later an innocent person will be killed. What happens then?
Also would bringing back the death penalty make it more difficult to get a conviction in court. As the jurors would know someones life depended on it. This could mean more murderers let free.
Never have agreed with the Death Sentence, all to easy to make mistake. Someone wrongly imprisoned can be released. Someone who has been executed cannot be raised from the dead. Also when you look at other countries, the condemned are usually the poor/dispossessed/mentality ill/anti government individuals.
My view is that anyone convicted of murder should be imprisoned for life, and I mean life, you have deprived someone of life, the state will deny you liberty for the reminder of your life. The prison should be a simple stark affair, a cell with no privacy (just bars across the end, bed chair, small table, basin and a bog. There will be no carpet, no tv or radios in the cell. Locked up 12 hours a day, menial labour tasks, 1 hour leisure time in common room and 1 hour exercise in a yard. Same crap day in day out. Harsh and bleak, time to contemplate the error of your actions.
Good question CM. I disagree with Capital Punishment in principal. I think it is just a form of revenge and doesn’t actually achieve anything.
I really do find it abhorent that a society can ever feel the death sentence is justifiable. The arguement is always brought up as “in cases like this” the death penalty should be used, but “beyond reasonable doubt” should ensure that ALL cases are proven and there should be no miscarriages of justice ever. But this is not the case. Steve Wright was hardly caught with his pants down, was he? Who knows what evidence may or may not appear in the future surrounding this case: I am sure he did do it, and the beautiful people of that great town (and football club) can find some peace, but everyone believed the Birmingham 6 were guilty once.
On another note, here is the list of countries who currently use the death penalty (this list is not every country which can use it as I have excluded countries which have not repealed the law but have declared that they will not use it in future and haven’t used it for over 10 years). It is not a club I would like to see the UK a member of.
Afghanistan; Antigua and Barbuda; The Bahamas; Bahrain; Bangladesh; Barbados; Belarus; Belize; Botswana; Burundi; Cameroon; Chad; China; Comoros; The Democratic Republic of Congo; Cuba; Dominica; Egypt; Equatorial Guinea; Eritrea; Ethiopia; Gabon; Ghana; Guatemala; Guinea; Guyana; India; Indonesia; Iran; Iraq; Jamaica; Japan; Jordan; Kazakhstan; Kuwait; Kyrgyzstan; Laos; Lebanon; Lesotho; Libya; Malawi; Malaysia; Mongolia; Morocco; Myanmar; Nigeria; North Korea; Oman; Pakistan; Qatar; Rwanda; Federation of Saint Kitts and Nevis; Saint Lucia; Saint Vincent and the Grenadines; Saudi Arabia; Sierra Leone; Singapore; Somalia; South Korea; Sudan; Swaziland; Syria; Tajikistan; Tanzania; Thailand; Trinidad and Tobago; Uganda; United Arab Emirates; United States of America; Uzbekistan; Vietnam; Yemen; Zambia; Zimbabwe.
I suppose this opinion makes me a bit of a liberal lefty in some people’s eyes, but there you go.
If the death penalty is brought back does’nt that make us(juror’s, judges,exicutioner etc) just as bad as the murderers themselves???
A life for a life??? surely there are better ways of dealing with scum like this???
there are many arguments that this raises, from practicalities such as the cost of imprisoning criminals all the way through to the rights of the guilty to live on after [in cases of murder] taking that option away from their victims…
The questions I have in my mind in such debates include the obvious one - what if you’ve got the wrong person convicted, you can’t ‘undo’ such an act as has been the case with people released and paid huge compensation once their unsound convictions have been quashed…
But more poignantly perhaps, is the statement a society is making about itself, when it sees the only way to deal with it’s worst offenders is to kill them? Added to which is the complexity involved with asking oneself: does any society - just a group of people defined by collective ties enforced through a need to live ‘together’ - have the ‘right’ to determine if a person should live or die? It seems somewhat hypocritical to say on the one hand that what the criminal has done is wrong, so to punish them [again in cases of murder] we will do the same thing to them…
hard labour…bleek conditions…bread and water…thats it…
make em suffer
smiled:D.
I do not agree with Capital Punishment. I echo previous posts that whilst the crimes are terrible it is just a revenge act and as has been said there have been some notable cases of unsafe and unlawfull convictions in the past including mothers wrongly accused and convicted of murdering their children.
If the option of capital punishment was available in cases like that think of the consequences of that person being executed and then found to be wrongly convicted at a later date?
I agree with this. Corporal Punishment has a lot to offer IMHO.
I used to think the death penalty was a good idea, but the truth is mistakes can’t be rectified, and we’re all human so mistakes will happen, so where would the justice be in that situation.
I think the real change should be in the way we treat convicted criminals. I have a real problem with someone saying that a convicted murderer or rapist or paedo “has rights” - surely they lost those when they stuck two fingers up at society and said you can follow the rules, I don’t have to… if they don’t have to follow the rules, why should they benefit from the advantages society offers then?
Prison should be so effin unpleasant they NEVER want to go back… plain and simple… the idea being it “deters” people from wanting to experience it again… hence deterrence…
Soft prisons, day release prisons, prisoners rights … I mean what a ruddy joke.
Talk about taking victims and rubbing their faces in it…
I think the words “Reasonable Doubt” come into play. Where there is a case of such overwhelming evidence from DNA, CCTV etc then I believe it should be an option.Saying that, I also agree wiith Shane, make them break rocks for 30 years and live in chains.Liberal Chunky:D
So that’s what he got up to after retiring from his radio show in the afternoons…Don’t agree with capital punishment for reasons already sstated quite eloquently by others. Also it would almost be a quick release for the prisoner rather than the entire rest of their life locked in a cell staring at the walls. As long as prison is made very basic and uncomfortable rather than a nice place to lounge around playing nintendo.
I’m going to go against the genral consensus here and say that I agree with the death penalty - however - only in certain circumstances.
I mean, if you’re caught in the act or on CCTV and there is NO DOUBT that it wa you (providing you dont have a twin!) then YES bring it back.
I believe this not so much because I think they deserve it but…as it was brought home to me the other day with that Polish idiot raping and killing that poor girl…the thought of me paying for his upkeep for the rest of his life (through taxes) really angers me.
I dont understand the law but if you’re foreign then surely you should be detained at the expense of your own country!
No doubt someone will shoot me down on this.
But at the time the evidence against these women was seen as compelling at the time - certainly enough to make a case for a sentence of death to be considered. This was a terrible case and the impression given on the person(s) convicted was of a person without remorse and one certainly a deserving case for the rope…The expert witness and scientific evidence said so at the time…Only it wasn’t. Chucks I can see where you are coming from it’s just that no legal system is perfect and mistakes are apt to happen
I don’t agree with the death penalty for a number of reasons. 1) It is barbaric 2) Killing is wrong whether carried out by an individual or by The State. Two wrongs don’t make a right. No one has the right to take anothers life. 3) Mis-carriages of justice do happen.
I say bring back the ‘prison island’. Take the felons out of society, leave them together to their own devices on an inhospitable island with no chance of escape. With any luck in a couple of generations all the dodgy genes that sent them there will be expunged!
Steve Wright done what…I’m fecking glad Garret would’nt give him English lessons
My second wife was an Australian. It doesn’t work.
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