I have found these simple yet very effective stickers warning passers by that in the event that you may be in a serious accident,any passers by to not remove you helmet,as doing so has a good chance of seriously injuring or even paralysing you!!! and plus they are only a quid…a tiny price to pay giving the circumstances!!!




but this also then puts a first aider in a position where that if your airway is being obstructed/ mouth to mouth is required that they may not proceed to administer this … if it is a risk of not walking again or not breathing again which one you going to choose ?

prefer the one i used to have on my work helmet …

If you find a head in this helmet call a F*cking Doctor …

hahaha like it lol and a good point well made tim :wink:

I’d choose not breathing again personally.

This is a grey area because if you don’t know what your doing and you try to remove someones helmet you can leave them paralysed. Best thing to do is get yourself booked on an FBOS (First bike on the scene) course, that way, you’ll know what to do if you find yourself in that situation. Plus the course is good fun.

As for me I just hope that if I’m ever in that postion the first person on the scene has done FBOS.

When I got knocked over on my bike a passerby told the people standing over me not to remove my helmet. Prior to riding I don’t think I would’ve removed someone’s helmet if I did try to help a biker down.

I think thats Jobys point if the airways are blocked you will need to get to the mouth area to clear the airways. If the person is awake and it is clear that they are breathing ok then there is no point removing the helmet. Breathing would always be my priority. :slight_smile:

thats your choice but does that choice include the feelings of your family/dependants and how would they feel towards the first aider who could have possibly saved your life but did not because of the fear of reprisal if helmet was removed its a bit of a grey area as mentioned … always brings the case of the pcso who decided not to enter the river to try and save a child because they had not received the adequate training to mind and how it could have been a different outcome if you are that worried buy a flip front helmet … or the emergeny release styled i personally think fbos is a good idea but again its aimed at bikers and generally the amount of first aiders first on scene are either pedestrians or car drivers so they may not receive that specialist training and also the cost of it £75 is the last price i saw … and yes i know what cost is a life but if it was similar to bikesafe costs ( £30-£50 ) i think it would raise a lot more interest

out of curiousity …

if out riding with friends and friend has accident and is not breathing …

what would you do ?

I don’t have first aid qualifications so wouldn’t know exactly what to do. I would call emergency services and follow their instructions.

Purely my own selfish choice.

IMHO if the person isn’t breathing then they are, in effect, dead or are very shortly going to be. My priority then would be to perform CPR and therefore the helmet has got to be removed. If there are signs of life, (breathing and a pulse) then its a judgement call as to whether or not theres a need to remove the helmet before the Ambulance arrives.

good call and Please dont think i am having a go at you personally in respect to this topic

An awful lot of people trained for regular first aid know exactly what to do in the case of a helmet. Most modern first aid books cover the topic. They may not have practised it like on FBOS, but they will know to leave it on unless the person is either bleeding heavily, has vomited (very common if unconscious) or not breathing properly. They will know that they need another person to hold the head steady whilst they remove the helmet,and they will know the head will need supporting afterwards. Most non-first aiders will just stand there taking pictures on their phone anyway so I wouldn’t worry about them.

+1 as well to TrackdayJunkies post

if it needs to come off to sustain life so be it

if casaulty is able to support their own life signs then it will remain

taken from st johns course material

Removing a Crash Helmet

“Practice makes perfect”. Make sure that the first time you perform crash helmet removal it is not at the scene of an accident. Regular practice and skills update sessions will help you become more proficient.Do not move an injured motorcyclist unless they are in immediate danger - they may have neck or back injuries.Only remove a crash helmet if the casualty has difficulty breathing, is not breathing or is vomiting.Two people are needed to remove a full-face crash helmet safely. One is required to support the head and neck at all times, the other to lift and ease off the crash helmet.Undo or ideally cut the straps.Support the neck with one hand and hold the lower jaw.Working from the base of the crash helmet, ease your fingers underneath the rim. Ask the person helping you to hold the crash helmet with both hands.Ask the helper, working from above to tilt the crash helmet backwards (try not to move the head at all) and gently lift the front clear of the casualty’s chin.Continue to support the casualty’s neck and lower jaw. Ask your helper to tilt the crash helmet forwards slightly so that it will pass over the the base of the skull, and then lift straight off the casualty’s head.This information should only be used in conjunction with the St John Ambulance First Aid for Motorcyclists course.