Date Set For Introduction Of ULEZ

Off-topic
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8th April 2019

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-39488291

I didn’t realise that black cabs are exempt - seems pretty fucking ridiculous  given the high proportion of traffic they seem to make up in rush hour and the amount of time they must spend with the engine running in a typical day.

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I thought black cabs already have stringent rules on the age of the cabs (in London anyway you generally don’t see really old ones.) ? Maybe they are just on a different cycle?

Feck 2 years :frowning:

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15 years apparently https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/303254/response/746982/attach/html/3/09%2011%20MAQS%20Taxi%20and%20Private%20Hire%20Age%20Limit%20Consultation%20on%20Exemptions.pdf.html

All other diesels need to be Euro 6 compliant so around 5 years old when it comes in.


I thought black cabs already have stringent rules on the age of the cabs
Abzero
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oh well, I think i’ll be sad when I have to trade my bandit in.

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Thought it was Euro 3 for bikes?

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Thought it was Euro 3 for bikes? yourebarred
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emission-zone/complying-with-ulez

Apparently so?

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How do we check which euro cat we fall in?

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How do we check which euro cat we fall in? silveR6
We're paying.... but its 2 years away
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How do we check which euro cat we fall in? silveR6
There are two options for bikes - it's either nothing or it's euro 3. As a rule, after 2007 bikes are Euro 3 (with some achieving it slightly earlier.
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Is bm inside congestion charge in zone? Might be time to move it

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Yup, anything with Euro 3 for bikes is compliant. Some bikes from 2006 are Euro 3 compliant.  You can check via Manufacurer usually and then get it sorted with TFL.

I have to change bikes as my carbed one is not Euro 3 and so I needs a nice R1/GSXR/ZX10R/SDR/fastshinynew/ CB500X bike.  That will do me nicely.

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So my '08 CBR will pass - phew

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So my '08 CBR will pass - phew
CBR500R commuter
yes but you can bend the rules to get a new bike approved if needed ;)
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So my '08 CBR will pass - phew CBR500R commuter
yes but you can bend the rules to get a new bike approved if needed ;)
Panagiotis
Do you mean approved by the wife?
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He does…

He’s been cracking his jokes at her all year and she finally gave in so that he would stop… :joy:

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Typical asshole Khan.

Lets black cabs be exempt but Police,Fire and Ambulances will be hit with the charge. 

How fucked up is that?

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So my '08 CBR will pass - phew CBR500R commuter
yes but you can bend the rules to get a new bike approved if needed ;) Panagiotis
Do you mean approved by the wife?
CBR500R commuter
yep! :D
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Typical asshole Khan.
Lets black cabs be exempt but Police,Fire and Ambulances will be hit with the charge. 
How fucked up is that?
Hold Da Kæft
Really?  Can you point me to the source, because that is really fecked up.
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Well, Boris brought in the ULEZ, the only thing Khan has done is bring the date forward a year.

https://www.edie.net/news/6/Emergency-services-struggling-with-ULEZ-compliance/

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Typical asshole Khan. Lets black cabs be exempt but Police,Fire and Ambulances will be hit with the charge.  How fucked up is that?Hold Da Kæft
Really?  Can you point me to the source, because that is really fecked up.
Kevsta

Minkimark already posted the rules for taxis in the thread, everything else is on https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emission-zone and has been for ages.  Literally nothing has changed today other than the start date being brought forward by seventeen months.

Taxis are exempt from ULEZ simply because a pollution reduction policy has already been in place for them for several years.  Any taxis licensed after April 2012 already had to meet the Euro 5 standard, whilst those licensed from next January will have to meet zero emission standards.

Those licensed before April 2012 only need to meet the Euro 3 standard, but are allowed to operate for fifteen years from the date of the vehicle’s DVLA registration.

Non-qualifying taxis also do not have the option of paying a fee to still operate in central London as the ULEZ allows, it is all or nothing.

Applying the ULEZ requirements now on older taxis would penalize taxi drivers by suddenly changing the policy that they have been having to work within.  But that policy includes decommissioning schemes to subsidize replacing older taxis, and offering an extra five years on the road to ones which are converted from diesel to alternative fuels.

So whilst taxis are exempt from ULEZ, they are not exempt from lower emission policies.  They just are covered by an existing ones from which other vehicles were exempt.

And as nivag says, the ULEZ rules, like the policy for taxis, were all drawn up by Johnson.  But as they had cross-party support it makes no sense to turn it into a party political issue.