Can't keep me foot of the footbrake.....

I need my brain rewiring.

I guess because I do a lot of miles in cars as well I find it hard to resist stamping on the pedal if someone does a dodgy pull out in front of me.

Last Saturday - Kingston one-way . PT Cruiser in queue in front suddenly decides to indicate and start a u turn,

He sees me and stops immeadiatly - but not before I stamp on it and bring the rear end round in a satisfing screech - real Steve McQueen Speedway styley ( stop kidding yourself chummy ) .

Anyway if it had of been wet I would have been on my arse…

Any tips on avoiding doing this other than bungey my right foot to the forks…???

adjust the lever so you have to move your foot to an awkward angle to use it… or if there is any adjustment on the actuator part then wind that in so that it does very little unless you really mean it

it’s already at an awkward angle on my bike.

let’s swap.

Sounds like a good plan!!!

Whatcha goy Olio???

Leads me to a queston… Is it possible to drift the rear wheel on a turn or coming to a stop on a SB or ST with short dropped bars???

Seen plenty of SBs doing trick wheelies and stoppies but never that???

Imposible???

It’s a beaut.

you’ll love it.

I love it already!!!

Has a mean look to it which is always a good sign in my book…

the flatbed is an optional extra.

Practice, practice and then, do some more practice of your emergency stops!!! I wont go into the details as to why your brains speeds up and reacts better, but the end result will be you not stamping on your rear brake, but merely using is to steady the bike under heavy braking. It will also serve to stop you grabbing a handful of front brake and skiddind and possibly the front tucking.

Trust me, reinforcement will work, but you got to practice it. That is why my club does slow riding days at Ford Dunton.

Looks like the kinda bike a hitman would use if ever I saw one!

Good advice - had my licence since 1976 or so - but no formal training… tut tut

Also I blame Moto Guzzi’s

Reason?

My first 4 bikes were Guzzis and they have this great system - interlocked front and rear brake using the footbrake…

Stamp on it HARD and it sends 90% stopping power to one of the front disks and only 10% to the rear - It works! No back wheel locking!

For real emergency stopping the hand lever pulls in the other disk - so for emergencies you haul and stamp … and (mostly ) stop in a straight line.

Moto Guzzi came up with this idea in the early seventies - but no one else has bothered…

Can be tricky getting off a Guzzi onto another bike though…

it isn’t because the other manufacturers haven’t bothered, its because its an amazingly rubbish idea.

you have far less feel for progressive braking using your foot than you do your hands. to brake hard you have to apply small pressure to start transferring weight to the front tyre then increase your braking pressure as you then have a greater contact patch from the tyre deforming under load.

stamp the rear brake, you get full front brake without weight transfer and overpower the front.

not to mention the actual uses of the back brake (slow speed control, mid corner adjustment, backing it in, bringing the front tyre down on lift etc)

get a ducati mate, the back brakes are toilet and go spongey quick as you like

Ok I see your point - but with the Interlock brakes you had to do an extra sequence on an emergency stop…

  1. touch-squeeze brake lever to transfer weight - ( acts on one of the front disks only )

  2. microsecond later haul on brake lever and stamp on footbrake.

Advantage was it was very hard to skid…

BIG disadvantage the extra co-ordination took a vital split second away from your stopping time/distance.

Luckilly even my Le Mans never went that fast enough to worry about it.

As for brake feel you learnt to control it through the single disk only.

I remember getting on A Guzzi after experiencing Beezer and Norton brakes and thinking WOW! this bike really pulls up well…

but that was in 1978…

I think that the theory of interlinked brakes are sound for every day road use, but when pushing on, I have heard that the independant set up works best.

Police use the pans and i think they have linked brakes, and when pushing on, they wished that they didn’t.

for track use, they would be useless, as you say JB, not enough feel? (never experienced it, so dont really know.

Still got to practice practice practice though, until it becomes second nature. It is something that is never done enough, and always too late when you need it!

Buy a bike with ABS

Linked brakes on the Blackbird are stonking I dare say they aren’t the best on track, but on the road they are awesome really considering the weight of the bike and the amount of speed you’re generally trying to loose officer

On unlinked systems the back brake does little other than potentially lock the back wheel if you’re braking with any enthusiasm… maybe try to do all your braking on the front - practice keeping your toes/ balls of your feet on the pegs, failing that, make the back a bit ineffective as previously mentioned…

Take up stunting … when you’re having to balance those wheelies with the back brake, you’ll certainly become very refined with it! lol

I’d suggest riding with the balls of your feet on the pegs. Takes a bit more thought to shift your foot to the brake then, rather than just pivoting your toes up to it.