Can I have a full space marked out by white lines, as my car friends have, 5’ wide by 8’ long should be enough.
When you leave your coat with a club and pay for the coat to be left with them - and you come back and the coat is damaged or has been given out to someone else - then the club is liable - is it the same for parking - is the council responsible for the vehicle that you have paid to park on council property?
I have a full car parking space in my carpark for my Bike, right under a bright street light with a CCTV pointing straight at it.
As to the liability issue, I think you will find that when you leave your coat at a club you do so at your own risk and the club takes no responsibility for loss or damage. You usually find an exemption or exclusion clause on the ticket, or at least on the ticket text referring you to a list of terms and conditions that will include an exclusion or exemption clause. If they did not have this, they would have to inspect every coat very carefully for any damage before accepting it, it would make the entire process too slow to be worthwhile. No where would have a cloak room.
There are certain liabilities that exist, occupier’s liability for instance will protect you from personal injury, but I am not sure that it extends to your belongings. There are of course torts of negligence that may be used in extreme cases and the duty of care owed to you and your property would come in, but it is difficult to show negligence, causation and remoteness of damage. If your property was damaged by a third party while on Council land then that would be novus actus interveniens which is to say an intervening act which would be beyond the control of the Council. It would be very difficult to show that the Council could reasonably foresee the damage which was a result of their negligence.
Them having a carpark that wasn’t entirely secure wouldn’t really amount to negligence.
I know that was a really boring answer, but that is the law as I know it.
Do I understand that official view of LONDON BIKERS is that all bikes in London should be scratched dented and damaged whilst parking in London, and that no provision for anti theft measures should be made available - and LONDON BIKERS are of the opinion that parking charges for bikes are too low, and they should be increased so as they are in line with what other road users pay? Do LONDON BIKERS also think that since they are using the road during rush hour that perhaps bikes passing through the charging zone should also pay?
I have no idea - but on the cloakroom ticket point, it is not posisble for a cloakrom to absolve itself of all liability. They print a notice to make it clear they are offering no cover for any loss or theft, but that is only so they don’t get done over like they were some ort of insurance company. If items were damaged or stolen whilst in their care you could certainly bring a civil case and would have a good chance of success if the cloakroom had been run neglegently or dishonestly. Google shows there are a lot of insurers offering businesses cloakroom insurance, to cover them against these very liabilities, for example, if their staff are tealeafs.
An interesting case might be made against Westminser on the basis that their bays are designed for a certain number of bikes. Say a bay is designed for 10 bikes, but they take money for 12 bikes to park in it, have they displayed negligence and made themselve liable for resulting damage?
Rofl official London Bikers View … im sure there is one but i bet they will argue about it and then find it may conflict with vested intrests.
Hmmm my view is … No my bike is a piece of **** that already is scratched and dented anyway and the best anti theft provision is anyone with a pair of eyes would seriously not try stealing my bike and if they do and can after a mile of riding it honestly wish to continue riding it then they are welcome to it…
since it is now 15 years later - I can tell you, 20mph was the nail in the coffin - never ride into London anymore, so the parking issue is null and void for me