TIL - (well yesterday) that you need to be a premium member to use as gps navigation.
Boooo
This is quite common now.
Though with the right one, it’s worth it. We use TomTom Go for bike and car roadtrips. Google Maps is okay for simple point to point stuff, but Go is a FAR better navigation tool. We’ve just used it on a 2000 mile roadtrip, with a mix of cars and bikes.
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I hope they’ve improved their address function. I gave up using TomTom when I was trying to navigate to Ikea Dublin, which was only a couple of miles from where I was staying. I knew roughly where it was but didn’t know the address.
Every attempt at the address I tried, TomTom offered me branches in other countries. Eventually I turned to Google Maps and in frustration mis-typed the name. Despite the word ‘Ikea’ having only four letters, and me in my clumsiness, getting 50% of them wrong, Google had already offered the correct address before I finished typing.
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It’s not that good, but it works for me. The positives outweigh the negatives imo.
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I use tomtom go in conjunction with what 3 words
You can pick where you want to go on W3W and sent it to the tomtom app
I have tomtom and W3W on my phone with a carpureride on the bike
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testing out routeyou today (still paid subscription if you want navigation)
navigation was shit, would not recommend 
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Hi,
Tomtom go I think is dropped by tomtom…
Calimoto - well I tried once or twice, I even wanted to buy this. But after winding route made my KTM be less SuperDuke and more SuperMoto I said fcuk that.
I use Waze for car and for bike now constantly, I know is free and maybe not ideal, does not have the motorcycling route creation but does me from point to point.
Regards,
B
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I’m touring in France at the moment. Reached Chamonix yesterday. We tried Waze, Google Maps etc but found we were having to stop too often to try and figure out twisty routes.
Bit the bullet and subscribed to Calimoto. It’s been amazing: routed us over some astonishing roads and unlike Waze, it’s not shy flagging SPEED CAMERA IN 500m.
I subscribed thinking I’ll cancel after the 14 day free period but it’s been so good I’m tempted to pay to support them.
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Isn’t there a law against sat nav speed camera notifications in France?
Not that it seems very likely that you would be caught if you’re using a mobile app
I’m not sure what the law is but Waze feels it’s not safe to mention them; its workaround is ‘police are active in your area’.
Calimoto doesn’t feel the need for such weasel words and flashes the whole screen red with a countdown in distance. If you miss their warning, you deserve the fine. After 1,200 kms over the last few days, I was very impressed with their accuracy.
Maybe Calimoto is illegal, according to your link 
I think technically it is illegal but unless the police are riding alongside you, or they go through all the apps in your phone at teh roadside, they are not going to know.
If you were paranoid, I guess you could hide the app in a secure folder so nobody could find it once it was shut down.
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In France on the auto routes Garmin devices alert with, “Dangerous Road Segment.” That means there is a Gatso coming up. Every time I’ve had that warning I came past one of their stealthy grey cameras shortly after.
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Just back from 2,700 kms of France, Switzerland, Germany, Lux, Belgium, France.
Calimoto was brilliant, I would highly recommend it. As I got to understand it better, it delivered better outcomes. You can ask it to plan Twisty, Winding, No Motorway, or Direct routes. It is designed for bikers which means the important info is at the top of the screen visible without taking your eyes off the road. It flashes the WHOLE SCREEN RED when within 500m of a camera.
It found us some great roads. Some days we went for miles and miles without seeing another vehicle. Back roads where there are no cameras.
The only thing it can’t do is differentiate between tolled and non-tolled highways. As I wanted to complete my trip without using tolls, I had to switch to Google Maps for the last bit of yesterday’s journey to Calais. Google was awful after Calimoto: the speed info is in the bottom left and very small to see on a shaking bike. It gives no camera info and in my short journey I was flashed by one - front facing, so hopefully no number plate info recorded.
Calimoto is GBP £50 per annum. I used the 14 day free trial and cancelled with one click this morning.
Definitely worth trying and I will pay for it when I do more touring.
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I used both for a while, I find Kurviger plots better routes than Calimoto for me - it’s less obsessed with corners and more prone to making a nice flowy route with fewer junctions, and being able to adjust the fun/efficient ratio for different bits of the route is good.
Though in the couple of years since I switched I’d bet calimoto’s carried on improving, too.
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Very interesting, thanks. I’ve been playing with it for a few minutes and like the look of it.
There’s a couple of issues I have with Kurviger that’re work-around-able.
One is that the speed limits are all stored internally in km and converted back to mph, so often it tells you you’re in a ‘31’ zone when it means 30, because of rounding 
It’s also very hard to get it to send you on a motorway. So I tend to use Kurviger for the planned route (which almost never uses motorways) and just bung the hotel into Here maps if the day’s gone badly enough that we just need to get there. If you set a route segment to fastest-possible, it’ll still mostly stick to major trunk roads rather than actual motorways. But this can be quite a surprise if you’ve planned a trip that begins with a quick motorway blast out of the Netherlands, say, and you find yourself meandering through towns!
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Oh, and I don’t think it does anything at all for speed cameras. I use TomTom Amigo in the background for speed camera and speed limit warnings so I’ve never really bothered investigating that feature elsewhere. It starts up automatically when my headset connects, so I get audible camera warnings basically whenever I’m riding or driving, regardless of if I’m doing any navigation.
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