Blackbird or X11 ?

Hey fellas,

As I’m looking to upgrade to a bigger badder bike fairly soon, I was wondering if there are any owners of Superblackbirds or Honda X11’s on the board, and what they have to say about their bikes driveability/reliability etc.

I’m pretty loyal to my stable so it’s gonna be either one of these 1100cc monsters. The 'Bird is six-speed (which I like) and has fairing which is no doubt gonna be great for those Autobahn trips but rather shitty in London filtering action.

The X11 is a naked bike which I like too, but only has five gears, a piss-ugly set of clocks and lacks the plastic bits to truly exploit it’s potential…

So Owners come forward… how much are you spending on insurance, tires, general maintenance? Is the chain maintenance a big hassle? (I have shaft drive right now.)

Looking forward to your reports,

  • Stefan Mechanic.

Erm… update… think I’ll postpone this for a bit because I checked with my insurance and insuring a 1100cc bike would cost me TEN TIMES AS MUCH as my current bike. Wait I’ll say that again.

TEN TIMES AS MUCH!!! 5886 pounds a year and 2000 for pleasure and commuting only… cough splutter

No thanks mate… I’ll bugger off now on my crappy bike…

Having ridden both, they are both capable bikes but get a grip man, the X-11 is fugly Just my opinion of course… Funnily enough I was reading a recent(ish) “bike” magazine on the can half hour ago and they said “What any of us could do if we took the fairing off a Blackbird. But we choose not to and neither should Honda”

Essentially the X-11 is a retuned naked Blackbird - loss of 23BHP and 6th gear. The blackbird is a far nicer machine all round, especially from a re-sale point of view, that said it does mean that X-11’s are bargainous.

I test rode a 2nd hand BB July last year and this is the edited version of my write up for another site… the CB1300 is now 3 years old with 37,000 on the clock rather than the 21,000 stated in the write up…

"Thought i’d while away the hours whilst my trusty steed was in for a service & test ride a Honda Blackbird.

The one i rode was a 40,000 miler, and i was expecting it to be soggy and basically shagged… but of course it’s a Honda

Pulling out of Dobles showroom i was suprised how light it was having heard many describe the bird as a lardy bus, mind you i think it had the usual test ride allocation of one egg up of juice in the tank.

Being used to more torque (possibly due to lower gearing on mine) I managed to stall it, doh!!! Filtering was a doddle through the road works on the A23, then came the first bit of dual carriageway 40 limit with a gatso at the end, my chance to test the pick up and also the effectiveness of the linked brake system that has been the subject of much slating from the bike press… onto the dual carriage way, throttle against the stop for what seemed like a second and i buzzed past a volvo, the Gatso approaching fast, time to check out these brakes, what can i say, awesome stopping power!!! in the meantime the volvo started flashing me alternate headlights madly… time to filter through the traffic, again with ease, making good my escape down onto the M23, the slip road at the start of the M23 is a series of sweeping bends, throttle pinned, 3rd, 4th, 5th… then my bottle ran out, the bike firmly planted unruffled by harsh accelleration.

Off the 23 onto the 25, then off onto one of my favourite pieces of road - the A22 Caterham bypass, timed the lights so i had a rolling start and was in third in time for the awesome left hander onto the A22, bike cranked right over, the 40,000 mile donkey not missing a beat. Clear run at the twisties after the Caterham lights proved this isn’t quite the lardy bus it has been billed as, you can really hustle it and boy does it handle!

Filtering through Whyteleafe with ease, then onto Purley Cross, squeeze my way to the front of the lights and nail it off the line on the green, up into 2nd, tip into the left hander onto the A23, no time to check the speedo, but again, unruffled and planted, combined brakes do their magic in time for the gatso, the reserve light is now flashing so time to return the bike.

Overall, a cracking bike, guess its a bike to ride in isolation as it’s not quite as mental as the ZX12R, which i’ve also ridden and vowed never to buy… Busa… well i have an inherent distrust of suzuki’s ability to weld frames which on ballistic bike is quite important!

Would i buy one? Well the quick answer is yes… But the long answer would have to be subject to a longer test ride. I have been offerred a longer ride on one, and this would give me the chance to see what it’s really like comfort wise having been spoilt by the CB1300.

Ridden gently it’s a pussy cat, dial in the revs beyond 6k and it’s a ground to ground missile, and therein lies the problem, far to easy to drift well beyond a ton, makes going fast very very easy indeed, as warp factor 9 feels like 70.

If I was to buy a new un, the CB13 would have to go, 2nd hand it can stay… riding mine back post service made me realise that i couldn’t part with it, the trade in value of a 21,000 mile 2 year old bike is insulting, the CB1300 is worth more to me than what the dealers “magic book” says."

Hey, thanks for the info. I’m leaning towards the 'Bird, too… but the insurance is just insane.

Once I’ll build up a few years No Claims Bonus, age past 30 and maybe get an IAM certificate, it will be halfway affordable… until then I’m not paying six grand a year ;(

For 6 grand a year you would expect a free tube of KY!!!

For, 31, living in RH postcode area with 3 years NCD the CB1300 is 400 quid fully comp… Bear in mind that my first years premium on it was £1350 3 years ago!!!

They do come down, but make sure you shop around, http://www.ebikeinsurance.co.uk are quite good price wise

It’s a fantastic bike, does everything well, and I can’t imagine owning a ‘better’ bike, cos there really isn’t one out there. The only downside it has, is that it doesn’t fire me up in the same way my Speed Triple did, it’s not a bike that I can really feel passionate about, not to say that it’s bland or uninvolving to ride, cos it’s not, but it just looks a little too conservative for me… maybe a paintjob and an Acropovic will sort that out, which is what I’m gonna do, cos if I get rid of it, I’ll end up getting a less capable bike. It is fairly expansive to run, but not that bad, and the Avons I have on it last surprisingly well. I pay 176 quid TPFT at 34 years, which is insane for a bike of that performance.

Yep the blackbird ain’t cheap to insure - most companies don’t like under thirties anyway…but the blackbird isn’t exactly slow at coming forward and all that fairing doesn’t help either. Group 20 machine I seem to recall from days in Insurance - my 600 ninja is 16.

A mate of mine has a blackbird which he has been most happy with but with a couple of near misses recently on the licence front (and his business means he cannot afford to lose it) and two young sprogs I think he is looking to switch to a more sedate run on a Hog.

If he does his BB will probably go up for sale - I’ll get details and post accordingly if anyone is interested.

neither id hav a zx12r cuz they are cool as a shark with knees:D

Yeah - X11 - never really caught on did it. . .

saying that - i think the bike looks brutal in a good way - it just needs spraying matt black, some crash bars to protect the humoungus sticky out rad and add to the industrial brutalist look, some fruity cans and a small tinted fly screen and and it would look really good.

I would buy one and do it up like that.

I think he’s had a Blackbird for a while now, old thread.

It’s like having a conversation with people who left the room two years ago. . . . . :smiley:

It has to be the black bird for me