So am I, go Boris!
I’m not voting for anyone until I hear how they view riders of PTW’s…
It could be Boris but he’s a bit to close to the cycling lobby for my liking - well that’s how it appears…
Yes he cycles to work, at least he’s on 2 wheels! so lets see what he comes up with, surely it won’t be worse than what we have now
I believe election day is on the 1st of May, so make sure everyone’s registered to vote by beginning of April
Lets hope he sees all the good publicity he’s getting from us 
Ginger for Mayor I say:D
If Ken doesn’t win the elections, then I wonder what will happen to the new congestion charges due in October. Surely a new mayor would be entitles to revise them as they wish.
The Tory mayoral candidate, Boris Johnson, described Livingstone’s plans as an “old-style, tax the motorist” policy: "Londoners use their cars because of the appalling state of the transport system. A big car tax won’t change that. We need better alternatives to get out of our cars."livingstone is going to spend £500m on walking and cycling. oh flippin goodie. we’ll be able to spend even longer breathing in the extra fumes from the extra small cars allowed in sat in traffic, and ‘costly big cars’. he can spend 500 billion for all i care, i’m not sodding cycling round london
even on the routes where there are extensive cycle lanes, in rush hour there are still only a couple of bicycles in them, and some days i barely see a single cyclist. he’s living in a dream world if he thinks people in cayennes are going to go buy a mountain bike instead. then again, i dare say he knows this, and its a convenient way to raise extra venue for his other daft arsed ideas.boris has said he would revise them. whether or not he will if he gets the chance is another thing…
What the table you posted above is saying is: If your pickup is registered after 1 march 2008 then if it’s CO2 emissions are above the limit OR it’s engine size is 3000cc or more it gets charged £25 from October 2008 (this is to give people thinking about buying one now time to not buy one I imagine)If your pickup was registered before 1 March 2008 then the emissions bit doesn’t matter, but the engine size of over 3000cc still does. However in this case you have until 2010 (this is to give people who’ve already got a big pick up the chance to get rid of it I suspect)He’s definitely building this eco bit into the congestion charge rationale - which could well enable him to then start charging motorbikes - a*se. That would totally scupper my commuting economics. That said if he’s letting small cars in free perhaps they won’t go for bikes. Fingers crossed.
I tried to take my mountain bike to work once so I could ride it home in the summer (too lazy to get up early enough to ride it to London in the morning!) but I wasnt allowed to take it on the train to get it into London so sod his bike plans - they wouldnt let me even if I took it apart to save space.
£25… my god he has lost his mind.
thats how i want to read it Tonga! thats a relief
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7242445.stm#table
the X5 is fine, as is a 2.7 litre boxster, but if you’ve got a bigger engined golf or a vectra you’re fúcked.
C**T Ken hasnt got a clue, he is an idiot and doesnt knowit or admit it. Go for Boris atleast he knows he`s and idiot and admits it.
I’d rather vote Bungle from Rainbow…Hang on a minute… :laugh:
There should’ve been some exemption for businessses that need to run a big truck for their living but anyone else…I’m glad it’s come in.
If you can afford to fill up, tax and insure those stupid people carriers / trucks then you can afford the congestion charge.
There’s no need to run a truck, sports car or really a sports bike (yep said it) in London…Hit the country lanes and the track, and when they bring a C02 charge for bikes, that’s what I’ll be doing :laugh:
Just enjoy it while you can, or get off your arse and make a stand.
Have to get an electric commuter bike and keep the proper one for other trips. Has anyone ever tried one of the electric ones?
you do talk some sh*t sometimes afro
there is. companies will have additional variable costs which they will no doubt write off. families, private individuals and sole traders will get screwed however.
amazing logic, truely amazing. afford to fill up? most of these vehicles do perfectly good mpg, so it costs them no more to fill up than it does you. should you pay £25 a day then? people carriers aren’t bought as a style choice, they are functional so less emissions and congestion per head. light commercial vehicles pay less tax and insurance than a fair proportion of the cars under the co2 limit (hence why i can afford to run one at the moment). if you’re actually talking about top end cayennes and rangies, those people probably can afford it, so it wont stop them using it. doesnt mean we should just tax them because they are minority and cant lobby against.
so no one should have any choice any more then? we should be told what to drive, where to go, when we can do it? people holding similarily poorly informed views as you appear to have allow Ken to do his thing with impunity. bikers are a minority, people can (and already have) made sweeping incorrect statements about us. what if they stop you riding for pleasure as its emissions for no good reason? stop tracks for the same reason?
you mean like vote for the opposition who disagree with the introduction of sh*t plans like Ken’s? good idea, why didnt anyone post that earlier in the thread?
Have you been drinking Afro ? If you had 4 kids you might think differently about people carriers/estate cars - they’re both the same size and do similar mpg so why pick on people carriers ? Trucks too - why do you have a right to tell people what they drive and suggest their choice is any less valid than yours ? You could just as easily get to work on a CG125 but you choose an R1.
Oh, sports cars, the last bastian of a man’s childhood, a toy, an irrelevance maybe ? Perhaps, but if I’m paying 40% tax on what I earn at source, plus NI plus 80% tax on fuel (using cash I’ve already been taxed on !), VAT on fuel to heat my house, VAT on the tax on petrol, council tax . . . tax coming out of my bloody ears then sure as hell is hot, I’m not going to have some wnkey commie are hole like Ken telling me what I will and won’t drive, he can shove a red hot poker up his baggy arse till it comes our of his nasty little nasal mouth.
It’s all about control and money, nothing at all to do with congestion, emissions, saving the albatross or whatever is this months in thing, it’s just a bunch of *****rs trying to control and manipulate the rest for their own gain.
No mate, just wanted to see how JB was going to justify running a 4x4 this time around 
I don’t think anyone’s nieve enough to believe the tax is about congestion mate. In an ideal world those people you spoke of earlier who had a real necessity to use a large vehicle for their families (and I don’t mean 1 kid in an X5) would have a reduction, but as it’s about money, the government takes a catch all approach.I’m sure manufactures of large engine capacity vehicles will respond somehow as sales will no doubt drop in London, so we’ll still all be able to cart our bikes back and forth around the capital in pickups and possibly beat the charge . Alternatively, we could buy a hybrid car and a trailer instead :laugh:
just think the people who have new 4x4s can afford to pay it and everyone with a old small car get in for free so we can look forward to more congestion not less.well done ken real forward thinking…not…