Adventures in changing wheels on the Panigale V2

As part of trying to set ourselves up for not having to take the track bikes into a tyre shop every time we need new tyres, or for perhaps changing onto Wets on Wheels at the track, I’ve been buying some tools to enable me to do this.

Had a couple of stumbles… first specialist tool I bought to enable you to undo the front and rear axles on the Panigale didn’t work - the socket was too shallow for some reason, so bought a dedicated 55mm socket instead, great, but didn’t spot that it had a 3/4ths mount and so had to buy an adapter for that.

The adapter arrived today and unfortunately whilst my compact Makita impact driver has undone bolts before that couldn’t be undone with a breaker bar, it’s met its match with the Ducati and cannot loosen it. Bah.

Will try a breaker bar later, but am not expecting that to work, failing that I’ll have to either borrow or buy a heavyweight impact driver I think.


Special two-in one Panigale axle socket


Ready to go! Or not, as it doesn’t seat on the 55mm nut


Front axle alignment tool. You can use a screwdriver apparently, but this was cheap


Front off!


Socket-zilla. Well, Socket-zilla Jnr, it wasn’t strong enough to loosen the rear axle nut.

A 1/2" square drive should be good to 300 Nm, the Panigale axle nut is probably half of that.

Also:
1/4" square drive sockets generally range from 4 to 15 mm
3/8" square drive sockets generally range from 6 to 22 mm
1/2" square drive sockets generally range from 10 to 30 mm
3/4" square drive sockets generally range from 19 to 50 mm
1" square drive sockets generally range from 36 to 80 mm

Anything else is generally considered to be over or under sized.

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Cheers.

The Makita was able to impact drive off the DRZ primary sprocket when a breaker bar wasn’t having any of it, so the Panigale axle must sure be on tight. It was last done up by a tyre shop in town. Hopefully it wasn’t over-tightened. They’re meant to be tightened to 230Nm.

230 Nm is tight. Check the specification of the impact driver, typically they vary from 150 to 300 Nm

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Rear wheel nut for the tracer 900 is 146Nm and the consensus is that’s still way too much

A manufacturer would not over specify a torque setting, the higher the torque the longer the assembly time which is counter productive to production line efficiency. That aside too high a torque setting for the application will risk stripped threads, stretched bolts etc. Trust the manufacturer over random consensus.

Single-sided swingarm, innit. Requires a bit more force to keep the wheel in place :slight_smile:

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My existing 40cm breaker bar plus a wrench on the end to extend it resulted in predictable results. A lot of huffing and puffing but no loosening.

I have since ordered a 1m breaker bar. By god that better work.

This is why it’s always useful to have an old fork stanchion lurking in the corner of the garage.

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I’m old school and struggle to visualise Nm (Newton Meters) so think in real money of lbf-ft (pounds force per foot) 230 Nm equals 170 lbf ft of torque which means that a 1m breaker bar will require a force of about 60 lbs to crack to crack that 230 Nm nut.

While waiting on delivery prep the threads with some of Euro Car Parts finest Triple QX maintenance fluid or reassuringly expensive WD40 if that’s what’s on the shelf and prep yourself with a couple of bouts of arm wrestling and three Shredded Wheats for breakfast.

When I was a spotty teenage apprentice I called a breaker bar a cracker bar , the logic being it’s used to crack threads, that got me the nick name Jacob :frowning_face:

ps If @pricetta wins the arm wrestling invoke the first rule of fight club :wink:

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Ow, good tip on the WD40 front (yes, that is on the shelf in spades). Thanks NT :slight_smile:

I searched high and low for a tube of some kind before buying the 1m breaker bar. Sadly there were no fork stanchions to hand.

@Jay surely scaffolding pole would have been your friend here vs. breaker bars?? Either way that spec sounds insane. How do you plan on tightening back to that??

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I refer you to my previous comment :slight_smile:

Yup, but it’s OEM spec for Panigale V4/V2.

I have a up to 300nm torque wrench. It’s quite long. I pray I am man enough for it. Failing that, I’ll throw it in the back of a trailer/van, admit defeat and take it to the dealer and ask them how they do it.

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Victory at last!

The 1m breaker bar arrived, and after much struggling, the technique was to put the front wheel back on, lower the bike to the ground, and wedge some things behind the rear wheel to stop it sliding back.

I was then able to do lean on the bar, pushing it down with some of my weight on it. No big crack, just a gentle loosening. Yay.


Beefy breaker bar.


Make-shift chocks. I was able to stand on the yellow beam and that locked it nicely.


Freeeeee! Now to find an accommodating tyre shop to take the wheels to. My local BMW specialist wants an hours rate, so probably about £95. Err, no thanks.

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What are your thoughts now about taking the gear with you to change wheels on trackdays?

my local charges £15 a wheel for loose wheel tyre changes, so should be about that

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My local charges £10 per wheel a la Del Boy (Cest magnifique, Hooky Street)

Yes, tackle motorcycle wheels the same as car wheels, crack and torque the nuts with the vehicle firmly planted on terra firma

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That’s the plan. We bought these stands as they are transportable to the track. Eventually we’ll have tyre warmers and maybe even wets on wheels. Either way we’ll need the ability to remove wheels to take to the tyre stand at trackdays every now and then.

Got it all sorted today.
Loose wheels taken to a tyre shop for fitting the new Supercorsa SC1s.

No problems torquing the wheel nut to 230nm.