ULEZ: new bike


#52

That’s the way to do it. If the exhaust emissions are shown on the V5 (page 2, section V) you don’t need the Certificate of Conformity. The 250’s V5 exhaust emission section has been left blank, God bless Honda for providing the certificate as a courtesy, although note if a previous owner requested a Certificate they’ll bend you over for 75 hard earned for a second certificate.

You could have used ULEZ as an excuse to upgrade to that 1250, too late now.

I love the 250, sadly I can’t ride it for a couple of months :frowning:


#53

I thought we had to wait for the TFL process. How do I submit my CoC and get the formal exemption?


#54

see posts 13 and 34 above. Well done MAG


#55

NT we will still get that 1250 - this one has done 70k and I’m looking to put it out to stud.


#56

And why can’t you ride the 250. Have you got a ban?


#57

There was nothing immediately obvious but exploring around the site I found this link :
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/cc-contact-us-make-an-enquiry-wizard-37743 which I then also found in post 28. (Doh!) :slight_smile:

I have submitted my enquiry with supporting documentation (V5 and CoC).

Fingers crossed.


#58

Glad I came across this! Hopefully I’ve submitted the enquiry correctly and my 05 Bandit will be in the same boat as @Ben_Sir_Amos


#59

How do you get the nox level, apparently the sv1000 is 0.14, do might pass


#60

it’s on your registration doc. At the bottom of page 2. The Bandit is 0.15 which is a pass so yours should be fine.


#61

boris


#62

_"… a loophole in the ULEZ requirements. It came to light after the Motorcycle Action Group met with London Mayor Sadiq Khan and pushed for the concession."

HA!, What a bunch of duplicitous lying charlatans.

A small number of vehicles that comply with the most recent Euro standard will have been sold before it became mandatory for vehicles off the production line. These are referred to as ‘early adopters’. These vehicles may have been registered up to a year earlier and so may be compliant from up to a year earlier than is shown in the table.

That is what TfL said in the explanation for the original ULEZ consultation. Not even buried in the details. In 2014. When Boris Johnson was mayor.

But sure, well done getting a “concession” from the mayor to do the thing he was already doing to create a “loop hole” which they have openly and publicly always proclaimed as being how it works. Very well done to them for their efforts.

I am not blaming you for neither knowing or caring to check, Ben_Sir_Amos, but this is how the world is ending up in the mess caused by Trump and Brexit et al. Too many people blatantly lying because too many people happy to accept it. And MAG are sure happy to be the heroes of the beaten down biker who thinks TfL is out to get them.

Their claim is not even spin, it is in every sense an outright lie. It is time people started calling out things like that, and everyone else started thinking critically instead of refusing anything their perceived enemies say and accepting everything their chosen saviours tell them.

Glad you will still get to ride your bike without paying.


#63

I was just replying to someone who was asking and that was the easiest link already in the thread so I’m not bothered if you blame me. MAG did nothing much - except publicise the method of ensuring exemption from the charge for which they deserve credit.

But I’ve been chasing TfL for answers for some time because their database kept changing its mind about what was compliant and what was not. I am a little peeved that I was encouraged to get a certain type of car through a reduced road tax, I look after it - and now they decide they don’t want me driving it in London.

The Bandit won’t get ridden much (I need something newer anyway) - but as I live inside the expanded ULEZ zone I wanted to know whether I could keep it after April 2021.

And I hope I live longer because of the reduced emissions


#64

I’ve got a 2005 scooter so I’m giving this a go - Piaggio want 80 euros for the compliance certificate. Worth it though if it avoids me having to get a new one so fingers crossed


#65

Before you part with your hard earned

  1. Check the emissions section of the V5 (log book) if section V.3 NoX (g/km or G/kWh) is shown as 0.15 or less you just need to submit a copy of the V5.

  2. If section V.3 has been left blank as mine was, check the manufacturers original specification for NoX emissions. As above if NoX (g/km or G/kWh) is 0.15 or less then you’ll need the Certificate of Conformity to prove such to TfL

  3. If the NoX emissions are 0.16 or greater don’t bother with the Certificate of Conformity as it will only prove that the bike is subject to the ULEZ charge.


#66

Had to resend the email to them today as two weeks passed and no reply ,yet they claim 5 to 8 days to answer your queries


#67

12 days after submission for my 2007 registered Blackbird :

“Based on the information that you have provided we can confirm that your vehicle, registration XXXXXXX, meets the Ultra Low Emission Zone (ULEZ) emissions standards. This means you will not need to pay an ULEZ charge to travel in the zone, from 8 April 2019.
The vehicle compliance database will be updated to reflect the correct details of your vehicle, before the scheme commences.”

The database is not updated yet.

Makes me wonder how tough it is if an 11 year old 1100cc bike which is built on technology from 20+ years ago gets through at half the permitted level of NOX!


#68

Got my certificate from Piaggio - the Nox figure listed is 0.154 - I’d say that’s a pass as its 0.15 to 2 decimal places - lets see what TFL say


#69

I’ve gone the opposite way and bought this which will be ULEZ exempt


#70

Unfortunately seen a CoC for a Yamaha FZS600 - sadly 0.18g/km… :frowning: Oh well, I’ve sold it now and have the 2007 FZ6 S2 - would have been right pissed off to find out it was except after I’ve sold it!


#71

Someone on an sv Facebook group has found the sv1000 to be compliant and got confirmation from tfl, do I need to do anything now or will it update their database for all sv1000s?