You sure they shrunk rusty? lol
Just arrived at work to hear that a mate of mine had his flat burned out on Saturday night. All his belongings gone and he could have died if he was asleep in there…
These rioters are proper scum
Wow, so sorry to hear 
Mindless idiots fueled by violence, they don’t even know what they’re fighting for.
R.I.P London.
If theres anyway I can help let me know.
Cheers Dan and LondonGirl…
He’s alright, just pretty wound up as he’s not only lost his home but all his documents, passport, photos etc…
Hopefully yesterday was the last of it and they won’t be up to no good again tonight!
Also I hope things are okay with you and your family Daniel
That must be the worst thing about something like this, losing all your photo’s and documents. Everything else in the house can be replaced pretty easily.
It shows the intelligence of the cretins that were torching places when they never realised that there were flats above the shops. How people weren’t killed, I’ll never know!
rusty mate I don’t think they care.
Yeah me and my family are ok. I’ve had the boys round and set up a few party trick should people want to break into mine. If they like fire we had water guns filled with petrol for them.
Geez. Hope he’s OK as can be.
I’m guessing he’s got somewhere to stay?
Does anyone know if there are any organisations helping the people who lost their homes?
I can’t even begin to articulate how angry I am at what happened. Heard all the sirens blasting up Wood Green High Street towards Enfield last night. Was worried for a friend who lives next to a phone shop down there - she had to get home from an event, and we thought if it kicked off again down there and she couldn’t get through I’d have to find a way to go pick her up. It was fine in the end.
This part of town isn’t perfect, but a lot of work has gone into the area. And it’s just all undone in 24hrs of farking insanity. A lot of the shops in Tottenham and Wood Green I know are independent stores, and they’re now torched or smashed up; some insurance companies won’t cover the damage and where does that leave people?
This has been brewing for a while. There is a general feeling of disenchantment amongst London’s unemployed young people. Big business is viewed as crooked to say the least, and our Police are unfortunately viewed as thugs (kettling students, killing Jean Charles De Menezes, causing the death of the newspaper seller at the G20 protest, etc). Our current Government are further fueling it all by forcing the closing down of youth clubs and community centres, and putting more people out of work as they make cuts.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t for one moment condone any of it. I live in Central London, and have friends living in Tottenham. It’s a very scary situation! … but, no big surprise really. It was coming, and we haven’t seen the last of it.
Stay safe out there!!
It’s a complicated social issue, but the crux of it is, a load of youths that would usually be committing crime in small groups, got together to commit crime in a large group and took the opportunity to get one back at the Old Bill, who usually stop them from doing whatever they want!
What they haven’t seemed to realise is… they have to live in the communities they’ve smashed and burnt! Not the cleverest are they? Maybe if they had ever contributed anything to those communities that might mean something to them, but I’m guessing not!!
There’s such a i dont care attitude I guess out there. I dont care if i smash up someones shop. I dont care if i burn someone out of their home, or kill em. What they do seem to care about is getting one over on the establishment though. But dont care if they do get caught. I struggle to understand what I care enough about not to get involved with this sort of thing. How do you get ‘them’ to care? And it spills down to I dont care if i knick someones motorbike.
There’s a lyric “All care about is money and the city that I’m from.” - DJ Khaled, obviously only a half truth these days.
Brixton was laid waste to last night. Riding through there this morning was like passing through a film set.
IMO there needs to be an immediate amnesty for illegally held firearms and weapons to get as much hardware off the streets as possible- followed by a serious crackdown with serious penalties for violent offenders and looters. Maybe a ‘violent offenders register’ would help…or deportation to the Falklands maybe…
You can’t and that’s one of the major problems BM. I’ve been listening to LBC this morning and a few kids called in and they all said that nobody cares about them, that they are not being listened to and that they don’t have a voice. Some even went as far as to say that they are being failed by their own community. Most feel hard done by and believe the world owes them something. Not that this justifies their behaviour and actions but I think you hit the nail on the head there - how do you get them to care about something else other then themselves or their own kind (peers - I don’t mean colour here).
Same as it ever was. Of course they don’t care ‘…and we don’t care’ was a seminal lyric out of Pretty Vacant in 1976- and not a lot has changed since then in terms of perceived prospects for a lot of young people.
This can be turned around simply and quickly if the government and the media could get their acts together. Accepting things as they are is no longer an option- some tough love is required IMO.
What I see about the “yoot” of today is that it is always someone else’s fault, it’s a blame culture, blame somebody/something else. Never themselves. They are never wrong.
The problem is that everyone wants something for nothing nowadays, the poor working classes are envious of the rich middle classes, and people just want to play the lottery or marry a footballer than think about getting themselves out of the situation, or getting a decent education and job.
Theres no excuse for violence, and all this talk about the working classes not having a say, then why dont they get of theyre back sides and speak up with a voice for themselves?
I come from a working class family myself, my family moved out of belfast when i was a child, and i was brought up in northern ireland. Did i turn into a mindless thug chucking petrol bombs, rioting, looting on the street and then winging that im hard done by? no, i got an education, worked my bollocks of and got a decent job.
The rest of the world didnt care much (and still dont) when it happens on the streets of belfast every other night of the week, and its for the same reasons. the young are bored, uneducated, and follow generations of families who are lazy, living of benefits and believe the world owes them something.
I feel for the innocent people in the affected communities (including the family of the person who got shot, if he is innocent - and nothing is proven yet). But the scrotes who have gone out rioting under the pretence that it’s for some ‘greater cause’ or that ‘their feelings are hurt’ or that ‘no-one listens to them’ is a load of old bollocks, they’re just criminals who want free trainers and electronics, and I hope they’re all rounded up and an example is made of them.
This is all well and right, but how do we go about changing the young? As a community and as a society?
If you want benefits, you work for it.
-a good start in Totenham is to make them clear up the mess they created.
-get rid of the human rights act - If theres riots on the streets and they need a good hosing down, do it. If someone breaks into your house and you clobber them over the head, thats fair justice. If we want to extradite known terrorists, do it.
If your at the scene of a riot throwing petrol bombs or smashing into a store and you get hit by a police rubber bullet, you shouldnt have been there
-more power given back to teachers - there needs to be more respect from younger people than them known they can say and do whatever they like without any consequences.