last update from me this evening.
London stuff is coming to nothing - seems to be false alerts - which is very good news.
Glasgow stuff is more confusing.
One man in custody - that’s all we’re being told officially - the other chap is being connected with a suicide attempt with some sort of vest he was wearing… again rumours and conjecture at the moment.
Two men arrested… but only one being put up as officially in police custody - everything else is ‘no comment’
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Okay this really is the last update…
Second man WAS caring a ‘suspect’ device. Glasgow hospital was partially evacuated.
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ok guys…i work at heathrow airport and feelings ran high in my crew room today…
these *******s are as slimey and as cowardley as they come…
all day we waited for a bang outside so it was all tippy toes…thank god nothing happend.
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i took it upon myself to check every aircraft i sent out with a fine tooth comb…twice, before i let it go off my stand onto the taxiway today…and hoped everybody else who was seeing out aircraft in the airport did the same.
but got to be honest here…being an ex soldier in NI back in the early 90’s,i can remember that the IRA used to atlest give us a phone call to let us know were the dam bomb was on most occasions…they wanted to create mass mayhem…not mass murder…
these *******s are just out to maime everybody in sight ,just becouse they dont like how we live…bottom line…
im getting worried now,going to work,so i hope the day never comes when i hear that awful sound in the air…
keep ur eyes peeled guys…please…
smiled
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Sorry, Matt, ur completely wrong, NI wasn’t a contained war, as Canary Wharf and Manchester proved. Before anyone gets the wrong idea, i’d like to point out that anyone involved in those or similarly cowardly attacks on the public should face the death penalty, instead of being released back into the community to spread their poisonous bigotry any further. Do you realise that the people responsible for massive atrocities in NI and England were released from jail, sometimes after 3 or 4 years ater murdering up to 20 people ruthlessly? There were no rules whatsoever in the NI conflict, at least behind the scenes. The official rules were in fact too restrictive, and on many occasions if soldiers or police were allowed the kind of freedom enjoyed by the police on the day of Jean Charles de Menezes murder, many deaths would have been averted, as the security forces had a much clearer picture of the protagonists and their movements.
The problem now is that the government want us to feel like we’re under attack and that is the only way they can get their restrictive human rights violations through parliament. Sorry, i don’t buy it. Yes, there are terrorists out there determeined to do us harm but its nothing more than that faced during the days of the IRA. Yes, its a possibility, but a damn slim one.
Why are we being attacked by these extremists then? Nothing to do with the illegal war waged by our prime minister, is it? How many times had the UK been attacked by these extremists before the puppet Blair decided that we should blow the **** outta some poor country, despite the protestations of the vast majority of his electorate.
Good points there… just a couple of replies - as I said not getting into the politics.
1 - NI was a contained war - one enemy, one goal, and it was contained to UK shores… and we knew who was shooting at us.
2 - IRA etc did have rules - my dad was army in NI in the 70s - he had a great deal of respect for the IRA and their chums - because they did operate with a degree of understanding that (for the most part there are obvious exceptions) they wanted to cause financial and mass chaos and confusion - not mass death. I grew up with my father in NI dealing with them every day.
3 - There are no rules in this war. We don’t know who the enemy is - they could be coming from several parts of the world or in fact just one part of the world. They don’t give us any warnings and are only interested in killing as many people as possible. As has now been confirmed the second guy who was wrestled to the floor at Glasgow had a suicide vest on and tried to detonate it at Glasgow hospital… even the IRA never did that.
The rules are out of the window - but that’s what makes ‘us’ different to ‘them’ and as long as we never lose site of the rules and don’t go too far down their path then we will always win.
All IMHO of course.
Smiled - much respect - you guys can make the difference between life and death - as has been shown over the last couple of days members of the public and staff ‘in the front lines’ have made the difference between stuff going bang and the police stopping it happening.
Oh yeah… and the IRA never blew up tube lines with 100s of people on them in rush hour.
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NI was not contained! and there was more than one enemy!
the army was in northern ireland as support for the police force! without getting into the religious stuff of it all. there where threats from several factions wether protestant or catholic.
i agree with shane on most points except the phone call bit! ‘Omagh bombing’ deliberatly calling it in for one part of town and detonating it where people had been evacuated to?
Anyway, this isnt what this post is about!! it is bad news about glasgow and the two devices the other day! but lets not let our own government scare us into something that its not!
be vigilant everyone yes! but dont go calling in half empty carrier bags or old ford escorts that have been parked up for a week.
Not wanting to get into politics, after all thats 1 of the reasons i’m here and not there.
We still know who’s shooting at us, our intelligence ain’t so good, stands to reason as its much easier to infiltrate English speaking terrorists than Islamic terrorists.
Yes, there were rules, and you’re right, they had respect for each other simply because they knew they could operate within a certain framework, a general shared understanding.
“Oh yeah… and the IRA never blew up tube lines with 100s of people on them in rush hour.”
I suggest you look back through news reports when the IRA blew up an entire bus station, with everybody still inside. Or how about 36 people who were at the remembrance ceremony at Eniskillen, including many war veterans?
Many, many dead people, before my time, heres just 1 report from 1 day in Belfast
2.09 pm (Windsor Park, Belfast)
A bomb (estimated at 30 pounds of explosive) was detonated on the footbridge over the Dublin to Belfast railway line at Windsor Park. There were no injuries in the explosion.
2.36 pm (Brookvale Hotel, Brookvale Avenue, north Belfast)
A bomb (estimated at 50 pounds of explosive) exploded at the Brookvale Hotel, in Brookvale Avenue, north Belfast. The bomb was contained in a suitcase and was planted by two men. The area had been cleared and no injuries occurred.
Bomb warnings about other devices planted in Belfast were being received every few minutes.
2.40 pm (Ulster Bank, Limestone Road, north Belfast)
The car bomb (estimated at 50 pounds of explosive) exploded outside the branch of the Ulster Bank on the Limestone Road, north Belfast. The site of this bomb was a few hundred yards from the first bomb. This area had not been cleared. A local Catholic woman was caught in the blast and lost both legs. Motorists, in cars which were caught up in the traffic chaos, were also injured in the blast.
2.52 pm (Botanic Railway Station, Botanic Avenue, Belfast)
A car bomb (estimated at 50 pounds of explosive) exploded outside the railway station in Botanic Avenue. There was considerable damage to property but no serious injuries.
2.53 pm (Queen Elizabeth Bridge, Belfast)
A car bomb (estimated at 160 pounds of explosive) exploded without warning on the Queen Elizabeth Bridge. There were no serious injuries in this explosion. There was some damage to the structure of the bridge.
3.02 pm (Agnes Street, Belfast)
A car bomb (estimated at 30 pounds of explosive) exploded outside a group of Protestant houses in Agnes Street. Those in the area did not receive a warning but there were no serious injuries.
3.02 pm (Liverpool Bar, Donegall Quay, Belfast)
A bomb (estimated at 50 pounds of explosive) exploded in the Liverpool Bar in Donegall Quay. There was no clear warning but the explosion caused few casualties.
3.02 pm (Bellevue, north Belfast)
A bomb (estimated at 30 pounds of explosive) exploded on the bridge over the M2 motorway at Bellevue in north Belfast. There were no serious injuries in this explosion.
3.03 pm (York Street Station, York Street, Belfast)
A bomb (estimated at 30 pounds of explosive) exploded York Street railway station. The bomb was contained in a suitcase and it exploded before the station could be cleared. There were a number of casualties.
3.04 pm (Ormeau Avenue, Belfast)
A car bomb (estimated at 50 pounds of explosive) exploded in Ormeau Avenue. Those in the area did not receive a warning however there were no serious injuries.
3.05 pm (Eastwood’s Garage, Donegall Road, Belfast)
A car bomb (estimated at 150 pounds of explosive) destroyed Eastwood’s Garage on Donegall Road. There were no serious injuries in the explosion.
3.10 pm (Oxford Street Bus Depot, Oxford Street, Belfast)
A car bomb exploded outside the Ulsterbus depot in Oxford Street. This explosion resulted in the greatest loss of life and the greatest number of casualties, of any of the bombs on the day. The area was being cleared but was still crowded when the bomb, in a Volkswagen estate car, exploded. Two British soldiers, Stephen Cooper (19) and Philip Price (27) were close to the car bomb and died instantly. Also killed in the blast were: William Crothers (15), William Irvine (18); Thomas Killops (39) and John Gibson (45). All four were Protestant civilians who worked for the Ulsterbus company.
3.15 pm (Stewartstown Road, Belfast)
A bomb, thought to have been abandoned on the Stewartstown Road, exploded but caused no serious injuries.
3.20 pm (Cavehill Road, north Belfast)
A car bomb (estimated at 50 pounds of explosive) exploded outside a row of single storey shops near the top of the Cavehill Road, north Belfast. Those caught in the blast had no warning of the bomb. The shops were in a religiously-mixed residential area. Two women and a man died in this blast. Mrs Margaret O’Hare (37), a Catholic mother of seven children, died in her car. Her 11-year-old daughter was with her in her car and was badly injured. Miss Brigid Murray (65), a Catholic, was also killed. Stephen Parker (14), a Protestant teenager, also died in the explosion. In addition there were a number of serious injuries.
3.25 pm (Railway Line, near Lisburn Road, Belfast)
A bomb exploded on the railway line near the Lisburn Road, but caused no casualties.
3.25 pm (Crumlin Road, Belfast)
Two bombs (both estimated at 50 pounds of explosive) exploded at the Star Garage on the Crumlin Road. There were no serious injuries in the explosions.
3.30 pm (‘Nutts Corner’, west of Belfast)
A landmine was detonated on the road to Nutts Corner, west of Belfast, just as a bus full of schoolchildren was passing. The driver saw the device and swerved, avoiding the worst of the blast. It was thought that the bus may have been mistaken for a British army vehicle. There were no serious injuries in the explosion.
3.30 pm (Northern Ireland Carriers Depot, Grosvenor Road, Belfast)
A bomb (estimated at 50 pounds of explosive) exploded at the Northern Ireland Carriers depot on the Grosvenor Road. There were no serious injuries in the explosion.
3.30 pm (Sydenham, east Belfast)
A bomb on the Sydenham flyover was defused by the British Army.
[Awaiting further information on the following bombs]
Time unknown (Garmoyle Street, Belfast)
A bomb exploded at a seed merchants in Garmoyle Street.
Time unknown (Salisbury Avenue, Belfast)
A car-bomb exploded on Salisbury Avenue, causing no injuries and little damage.
Just a simple day in Belfast
Yes, there should be no rules against these scumbags, if the SAS in NI were allowed to do everything they wanted to do, then deaths in NI would have been massively reduced, becuase they knew the perpetrators and they knew their plans but couldn’t act.
As “Abu Grhaib” and other situations showed we have no moral superiority over the maniacs that are trying to lkill us, but its their rights that should be constrained, not ours
Right so they have the c*nt who did this in custody. So there is now doubt about his guilt.
I say bring back public hanging, with a great deal of torture before hand.
These w*nkers don’t think twice about killing totally innocent people and children FFS!
I am really quite worried about this whole thing, as I work in Canada Square, which I know is bound to be a target at some point or another and to be honest the “security” down there is pathetic.
there is a lot of Anger in Paisley today, people who work at the airport have said that when the car hit the bollard they tried to reverse the vehicle which they could not do because the bollard was stuck under the chassis.
It is alleged that the occupant then started pouring petrol over himself and the car in front of a police officer, who stood and watched it was only then when the man was on fire that the officer and other members of staff intervened.
People in Paisley are dismayed that the officer who was armed did not challenge/shoot before the incident escalated. There is also anger that the RAH (royal alexandra hospital) was evacuated due to the “suspect device” the anger is focused on the risk to other lives with the basic shortfalls that seem to have happened.
regardless of the above, which will all come to light soon enough, the need to take this seriously is unquestionable, hell at the last incident when the troops went to heathrow people said then it was a goverment ploy, trust me I know as a fact that the SAS were involved. When you have serving and past serving servicemen urging you to take care it is time to listen not to exercise scepticisim.
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Don’t ask me… you never know who might be listening! 
What pissed me off at the airport in January (the first time I’d been near an airport since the alleged plot to blow up the planes last year) was people whinging about the airport restrictions over what you could take on as hand luggage… I’d rather have limited hand luggage than have some deranged lunatic have the chance to blow the plane out of the sky… unless it was the biggest government conspiracy going (one they have been willing to spend £millions on and waste thousands of manhours to perpetuate) it was a real risk! 
I don’t see the risk of getting killed in London as being any greater than it was when I first came to London. Back then it was the IRA putting bombs in Canary Wharf and Oxford St, now it’s others! You still have a greater chance of dying in a road accident or being killed by someone who isn’t a terrorist.
and your point is ?
the resolve ?
“People in Paisley are dismayed that the officer who was armed did not challenge/shoot before the incident escalated. There is also anger that the RAH (royal alexandra hospital) was evacuated due to the “suspect device” the anger is focused on the risk to other lives with the basic shortfalls that seem to have happened.”
Just imagine the possible headlines, ‘man has heart attack at wheel, crashes into front door of airport and copper shoots him dead’ !
Always easy to be dismayed and give judgement when you (and when I say ‘you’ I mean those that are judging the Officers actions) are the one that is not there.
I can easily sit here and tell everyone what I would have done, tell them exactly how I should have reacted but until it happens, I, not one of you or anyone else can say how they would react.
As for ex military peeps making judgemnets and saying what should have been done well sorry fella’s, the training is entirely different and policing and soldiering are not the same thing.
I think I can say that none of us should really start throwing blame at the actions of coppers or persons who were at the airport until we really know what happened, until then all we’re doing is basing our assumptions on rumours.
What we can do is give 100% of the blame to the cowardly scum who are trying to kill innocent women and kids.
As was said when we were facing the threat from the PIRA, they only need to be lucky once, we need to be lucky all the time.
Go !!! Bazza !!
Quality !!
My point is that people are blase about the risk.
There are risks and we need to be aware, but not let it rule our lives.
Nicely put Baz, i agree. We just all need to stick together as bikers and Londoners and keep our eyes open.
Be careful out there Baz.
Believe me I’m very careful … the worst that can happen to me at the moment is a paper cut being stuck inside !!
Aw neva mind. You’ll out and about soon. 
Im flying to Edinburgh on Wednesday i just hope that everything will be ok.
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