sv650 tyre suggestions please

hi guys and girls

i need to start making a choice on some new rubber soon as theres not much left on mine and i need some advice on what is good to go for.

i do general riding to work and weekend rides. i dont do track days but do like to have a blast every now and then.

cheers
baz

I think Ratty swears by Michelin Pilot Powers or something…but he’s into knee down action. Sadly I’m still lumbered with the OE Dunlops on my SV which are quite frankly shocking, it’s like riding in the 80’s again. I had Michelin Pilot Road 2’s on my Bandit before I got rid of it and I thought they were really good, very grippy, and quite long lasting. When the time comes (which hopefully won’t be long) I’ll be getting some of them.

indeed i use pilot powers…the non 2CT versions…

both are very good tyres, i prefer the non 2CT as im told the are a little bit more grippy for really pushing it or KD’ing it up.

my pilot powers allow me to scrape my sliders and pegs…thats good enough for me!

thry are’nt bad in the wet either, i know Elad has had KD in the wet on 2CT pilot powers:w00t:

so yeah michelin all the way man:cool:

yup powers are the way to go. i’ve got them on my sv1000 and they still stick hard with the extra power and weight:D

We’ve got a few sets of Pirelli Supercorsa’s (SC1 front/SC2 rear) race scrubs off my SV for sale. They are have plenty of life left in them for road riding/track days. The front’s have done 90 minutes practice and 40 race laps, and the rears have done 90 minutes practice and 20 race laps. £50 a pair.

They are grippy enough for us to race on, and don’t take long to get heat into them so they’re fine on the road.

Cherie x

how long will the race tyres last and is it suited for me? Sorry for the questions but ive only been on the road since june and this is the 1st set of tyres ill be getting

The race scrubs are a bit softer than the road tyres, but the supercorsas arent supersoft (the SC1/2 numbers relate to their softness SC0 is the softest, on race tyres you go a bit softer on the front). Considering the wear they have already had, you are looking at wear for about 4000 miles easy and for £50, that’s a bargain. Plus you get no chicken strips :wink:

I’ve got supercorsa pros on my track bike and they are awesome, but not sure how well they would cope in the winter or on a wet road, they’re not really designed for that, probably great in a warm summer.

On my first bike I had Bridgestone BT015’s which were terrible in the wet, replaced them with Michelin Pilot Road 2’s which are an awesome road tyre, designed for wet grip on slippery roads, keeping the bike stable etc as well as giving great dry grip too. I’d recommend them especially if you are a new rider, will give you loads of confidence and you can trust them in all conditions, a great all rounder.

If it’s dry and warm then almost any road tyre seems to give good grip, even the rock hard continental tyres on my RF900 seem to perform well in the dry, it’s when it gets cold, wet and slippery that the differences seem to appear.

Fair point, Steve.

Cherie, you say they are supercorsas - are they supercorsa PROs? I know both are eligible for the race series. There is a difference between then two and the plain supercorsas would be better, but both are fine for road use - Cherie’s series is designed for the bike to be as close to a normal road bike as possible, so she isnt allowed to use slicks or anything very “racy” :slight_smile:

I would also say that the old style tread pattern is better for the road as the new one is more like a cut slick, which doesnt do so well in the wet. The old style pattern is like this:

If you are still unsure, than the Pilot Powers are perfectly fine. Look for a good cut across the tyre like the above cut, rather than this, which is your normal idea of a race tyre:

The cut will disperse the wet, whereas the slick will grip very well, but only to dry tarmac.

Supercorsa pros are shockingly bad in the cold and wet on the road - you never get them anywhere near a decent temperature and they slide all over the shop… (this was on a 1989 750 slingshot, so not a massive amount of power)

Blindingly good on a dry, warm day though :slight_smile:

Thanks for the replies.

Am i right in saying im best to go for a set of pilot’s as winter is fast approaching and does well in the wet?

Its just a lost alot of confidence in the bridgestone 020’s having afew slides and now my chicken strips are huge lol

I only have one set of the Diablo (newer ones with less tread pattern), all the rest are the Dragon ones with more tread pattern. They’re no problems in the wet, I’ve used them in races where wet conditions weren’t enough for full wets and find they are on a par with the Bridgestones 010’s I used on the road bike.

Here’s a link to Pirelli’s site with info about the tyres http://www.pirellityre.com/web/catalog/moto/moto_catalogoDett.page?categoria=/catalog/moto/hypersport/none&vehicleType=MOTO

In my experience on my ZX6 I can get it lent right over to almost off the tyre and still wind on the power in the dry - this is on what Michelin call a touring tyre, the Pilot Road 2. In the wet I take it really easy but they feel good, only slides have been on overbanding when I’ve been leaning. The Bridgestones were very nervous and twitchy in comparison and they are supposed to be a more sporty, softer tyre.

You can always ring Michelin and ask their advice, the chap I spoke to their was very helpful.

Jeez sounds terrible - Ive never had that problem on my SV on the road in the wet with old style tread pattern :frowning:

Dan Couzens commutes on his Supercorsa SC1/SC2 scrubs on the road SV all year round, and has had no problems AFAIK. I think they’re fine for the road riding conditions, but then I know people who refuse to use any Dunlop tyre coz they have a pointy profile and drop into corners too quick for their taste - I just lurrve the Dunlops, so as always, it’s horses for courses.

could be worth having a trawl through sv650.org and seeing what they reccomend on there, i had metz mz6’s on mine, but that was a curvy model.

To be fair, tho, C, Dan is very good and very experienced and although he (and I, with less experience and very arguably less riding talent than Dan) both run them on the road, they may not be right for this chap. I think that was Steve’s point.

I think you’re right, too, though, you have to find what’s good for you - you dont know until you try it.

Youve the option of a very good deal on a set of scrubs, or to spend 3, 4 or even 5 times that on a new set of Pilots. But the Pilots might suit you better. Its really up to you to decide. We can all sit here and advise you, but in the end, it’s your bike and your tyres :wink: We can just tell you what works for us and help you see the difference between the way the tyres are supposed to work, compared with how we have found them in practice.

get 2CT pilot powers…best bet by miles imo.:wink:

we run control tyre pirelli diablo’s in the ducati series, that happen to be the same size for the sv, so i use my scrubs…

i had a similar situation a few weeks ago as the OE tyres on my z750 were as square as a Rubicks Cube… :wink:

went to Essential Rubber (on the recommendation of some peeps on here) with the intention of putting on some Pilot Road 2s. had a good chat with the owner of the garage (I forget his name) and he put me on to Dunlop Roadsmarts. they are dual compound like the Pilot Road 2s, so you get good life out of the middle and good grip on the edges, and come in around 15% cheaper. the guy at the garage said they are the only tyre he has replaced like for like on his bike as they are so damn good.

a few weeks in and i would agree with him, they have totally transformed my bike. much more feel, tonnes of grip in the corners and seem to handle the wet brilliantly. in a few reviews/tests that i have read about them everyone raves and says what a great sports tourer tyre they are, so i would def consider them for your SV.

also, if you go to Essential tell them you are on LB and they’ll do you a 10% discount! And they are a proper nice bunch as well. :smiley: