If London Bikers sold some sort of distingtive arm band (yellow checked or similar) that we could wear on our right arms during big rideouts this would help mitigate the risk of rogue corner men fouling up proceedings.
We used similar things at a company away day. They fasten with velcro. We could keep them stored under our seats and only bring them out when required. Just an idea.
It’s a nice idea but I don’t think it would be visible enough … I think an easier solution would be for everyone to have a length of material/scarf/flag or whatever stuffed inside their jacket that they wave when they are marking a corner …
You might look like a bit of a **** but at least nobody else will be doing it?
On the other runs Dave and I have been on with other forums, the leaders post a marker (cornerman) just before a junction/roundabout. If its a tricky junction/roundabout etc, they’ll also put one after it on the exit road.
They also, for some reason, will have two back markers (gunners) and both of them and the leader will have a high viz on with the club logo on it.
Having said all that, none of the other clubs we’re with are as big as LB so the majority of us all know each other.
How about having a large set of coloured bibs made up, all the same colour, with the LB logo prominently displayed, and arranging for them to be stored at the Ace when not in use. Each could be numbered and booked to a specific individual, and if they don’t return it they pay for a new one.
Alternatively we could invite the crew that play the corner man on all the corners at the last French trip last year
They were difficult to miss as the corner all 7 of them together and then race each other to the top of the ride to make the next corner…
I think I just re-open and old can of worms here…
What about we tell people where we going and they learn to read road sign? Just an idea…
Good suggestions, and probalby something we need to do…
But also another easier way is preparation…you know you are going to be cornerman, as you will be in second place, so if a roundabout or turning is coming up, have a look and see where is best to stick yourself so that people have lots of time to see you.
When you are on the corner, best if you get off the bike and stand, wave, point the direction that people need to go. a broken down or lost biker is not going to do that
does give a rather effeminate picture akin to 1940s b&w films with the catchphrase “frankly darling, I dont giveadamn”…however, the army do something similar when they have a convoy, one flag marks the front, one the rear. i think the armbands are a good idea or dayglo derek vests with neon lights and a big arrow so that there is no confusion (ok that one was a joke. maybe.)
What about predetermined checkpoints? Say one every 50 miles. Then if it does go t!ts up, people can make their own way in their sections. Everyone waits at the checkpoints until all arrive.
Agree about getting off the bike and turn it off, if I’d have done that instead of leaving it running for too long I probably wouldn’t have ended up pushing the bike for a mile and calling the AA out. :)All said and done these sort of errors are going to happen once in a while so no real panacea but some of these suggestions could help. Don’t think arm bands will be visible enough though.
As the cornerman who sat there on the ‘correct’ A29 exit of the roundabout while I watched in dismay as everyone behind streamed past the ‘rogue’ cornerman on the A24 I would like to offer my apologies for not getting off my bike and jumping up and down (although I did wave, toot and rev furiously)! In retrospect this was probably the only way I might have diverted the attention of the group away from the rogue cornerman. Having said this the junction in question requires filtering into the right hand lane so ideally another marker just before the junction would have helped. This is no criticism of Elad BTW.
Good call Joby - something easy to implement to minimise the risk of it happening again would be an ideal solution.Like those mohicans you stick on your lid… No self-respecting biker would be seen dead wearing one, so we’d definitely know it was one of us… Hang on - shoot me now
On a serious note, armbands would be the cheapest option and I have to ask the question of more experienced rider-outers - has this ever happened before?
If not, do we want really to spend an amount of money disproportionate to the probability of the problem recurring?
Vests would be more expensive, so maybe armbands would be the way to go?
That is a tricky roundabout - those turning down the A24 haven’t gone round enough to see a marker on the outside of the A29 exit. At least one marker should be visible to people approaching any junction, especially roundabouts. But it’s all on a case-by-case basis, and very tricky if not impossible to get ‘perfick’ on the fly.
I for one would really struggle to pick out an armband whilst riding in traffic, might not be wise for riders to be concentrating on this rather than the road etc.
Worth a try maybe but could be an expense with little return.