September 11th

i think for every american died on 9/11, they have killed at least 300 innocent foreign people in Iraq and Afghanistan. i wonder how long does it take to read out 1,000,000 names, if they had them.

The reason we remember as a whole rather than just individually is that it brings us together and reminds us of what caused these terrible deaths. The same is true for example with WWII, we remember what a dictator did then and strive to make sure it can never happen again, without that the deaths wouldbe in vain.The same is true in this case, we remember the sour, repugnant ideaology which caused the initial mass killings and the knee jerk, dishonest politics which followed and again caused mass killings.

A significant proportion of those that died on September 11 were not American. The Twin Towers that went down were home to a number of international banks, which employed international people. From the towers, at least 3 Australians, a Bermudan, 5 Canadians, 2 Chinese, 1 de El Salvador, 6 Germans, a Grenadian, one Irish, an Israeli, 3 Japanese, a Swede, 13 Brits and 30 of unknown ethical origin.

Please. Respect my request NOT to post political stuff here.

The terrorists didn’t care that they included other nationalities, they wanted to inflict pain on the west and America in particular. It IS political, weather you like it or not, the people who died wouldn’t want it any other way, otherwise what will come from their death ? From death there has to be good . . . the good is making sure it never happens again.

It may well be political, but it is also possible to have a moments reflection for the people rather than the cause or effect.

No point in going on about it here, mate. That will achieve nothing.

I hate politics :crying:

I feel ignoring politics is a convenient way of ‘forgetting’ the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS who have died in Iraq… so that we can give our repects to the 3 thousand that died in America. That way we dont have to read out a million names :ermm:

I’ll always the date of my bike test. Exactly one week after this happened. We even stopped for 3 minutes silence during my test.

9/11 was no better or no worse than Omagh etc.

Same intent, different scale.

so lets just remember all those people eveywhere , who at one time or another have died at the hands of others…a moment for the innocent. whoever or where ever they may be.

Here here! :wink:

P.s. I respect your sentiment PPG - it was a disgusting attack on defenceless civilians and should be condemned without reservation. But you can’t post on this issue and not expect to get a response that has some political content. The whole event - it’s cause and subsequent ramifications are profoundly political.

The fact that this particular act of mass murder tends to get singled out for special attention (as evidenced by this post) over and above other recent acts of unlawful aggression is a political phenomenon - that cannot pass without comment. The saturation bombing/napalming of Vietnam/Cambodia by the U.S. was pretty bad also (tens of thousands dead) - to quote Chris Hitchens (ironically a supporter of the Iraq war!)‘The raids were flown by B-52 bombers which, it is important to note at the outset, fly at an altitude too high to be observed from the ground and carry immense tonnages of high explosive: they give no warning of approach and are incapable of accuracy or discrimination because of both their altitude and the mass of their shells. Between 18 March 1969 and May 1970, 3,630 such raids were flown across the Cambodian frontier. The bombing campaign began as it was to go on - with full knowledge of its effect on civilians. As a result of the expanded and intensified bombing campaigns, It has been estimated that as many as 350,000 civilians in Laos, and 600,000 in Cambodia, lost their lives. (These are not the highest estimates.)’

My thoughts and prayers go out to all of the families of those that lost their lives on that terrible day, including the hundreds of emergency service personnel that died trying to save the fallen.

“Stand tall, Stand proud, for you are remembered in our minds and in our hearts”. R.I.P.