SECURITY

Hi,

I had my 600rr stolen and will soon be chaining another bike (hopefully a GSXR) to a post in N4. I know i will need to get the best chain i can buy, but, if it does get knicked, will i see it again if i have a tracker fitted?

You’re not guaranteed to get it back, but the chances are greatly increased if it has a tracker fitted

If you can afford it, it’s better than not having it, right?

as Johnse1 said, the chances of it being recovered increase, but then that only depends on the prevalance of poliec units fitted with Tracker systems in the area.

it should reduce your insurance a fair whack as insurance companies like recovering vehicles they can sell again/don’t have to pay out too much for.

Wont reduce your insurance much , if at all !

Well thats with Express anyways !

Although the piece of mind you get when you forget to put the keys in and move the bike , 30 seconds later your mobile goes and they ask has the bike been stolen is well worth it !

What happens if someone has tried to steal or even accidently touched your bike and the company tries to ring you but cannot get through, then what?

Used to get about 200 quid off with ebike when I first insured an R1, but that was when my insurance used to cost 700 pounds a year.

Gets listed as stolen !!

You get a call from an automated system , press 1 if you know for sure , press 2 if you need to go look , press 3 for more time.

Dont get me wrong , just touching it wont set it off , although sitting on it and replacing the mirrors does :smiley:

Thats sh!t, so what if you’ve parked your bike a fair distance and your at a party or something, you have to go and have a look to let the company know for sure that “yup its gone”

Or if your at work and your bike is at home !!!

There are still plenty of high value cars stolen with trackers which are never recovered, they used to put them straight into a container and drive them to a port, not sure if that still works.

Almax 19mm chain and a f.o. padlock :smiley:

Not since Tracker Networks put dedicated masts in all UK container and ferry ports…

Containers DO NOT prevent a signal from Tracker Network units being sent or received.

If you don’t know the facts, please don’t mouth off on hearsay…

I said that’s how it used to work, and it did, the thieves laughed at Tracker for years . . . if you can’t read a post properly don’t post a reply to it . . . :wink: :w00t:

So how are the trackers defeated now . . . ? Lots of sports cars STILL being stolen and not recovered, especially in London. This is quite possibly why fewer insurance policies now require a tracker than was the case a few years ago . . .

Tracker is not the one-stop-shop guaranteed solution that Tracker want you to believe it is . . . it’s a tool in the toolbox but not necessarily the most appropriate.

For me it was a choice of a new alarm or a tracker , costs was the same.

What helped my decision was seeing all the alarms going off in the street and noone actually caring about it and thought it was more if a nuisance.

Also i didnt think anyone would actually do anything ( unless they were bikers ) if they saw a bike being wheeled into a Transit !

I would add that bikes with trackers can allegedly get lifted into refrigerated trucks & dissappear off the radar, but that’s heresay and Charly would probably have my knackers for that! No idea how true it is.

But the thing that turned me off most was if it does get nicked, tracked down and then returned to you, then your bike’s vehicle history report will forever show that it was stolen and recovered. Call me prejudiced, but I wouldn’t buy a second hand stolen/recovered bike. Got a metasystems alarm instead and it’s already saved my bike once!

No, your quite right. Although the refrigeration part of the vehicle is to act as a sound proof barrier against the alarm going off. It won’t effect the Tracker Network’s tracker.

(Please note every time I quote “Tracker Networks”, not any old tracker that might be GPS or GSM based. They will be effected by vans or containers and are not linked to the police tracking system)

On re-reading this thread I can see how my statement might have been aimed at an individual, it wasn’t. It’s the other thousand threads I’ve read where everyones an expert…

It’s also worth mentioning (despite my sig line) I no longer fit Tracker Networks trackers. So before you think I’m saying what I am to protect my line of business, I’m not. I still fit alarms but I’ll be the first to explain to you that an alarm/immobiliser is part of your security package not the security package…

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Steve… (05/11/2009)

Just re-re-read…

State your source then please fella, I’m curious to know…

Trackers aren’t infallible, but I think the difference between bikes and expensive performance cars is that to insure say a Ferrari or a Porsche, the insurance company will only insure if a Tracker is fitted.

Basically, a thief will expect an expensive car to have a Tracker fitted, but this is still not the case with bikes. So against what I’ve previously said, maybe this is a good thing.

For me, the results speak for themselves.

My bike returned as well as 5 others, and the thief caught and prosecuted on theft, drugs and firearms handling.

Result.

How big are the tracker units fitted to bikes ? I imagine a high-end thief would have the panels stripped down in minutes (probably in the back of the van) and searching for a tracker unit. Then lob it out the back door…

I had a tracker on a car a few years ago. The car was worth a small fortune, so I thought it was well worth keeping the subscription up. But on a bike I’m not so sure I would.

I guess the bottom line is, if you can afford it then fit one. The chances of getting your bike back are significantly increased with one.

small enough…