Hi Guys
Sorry if this question has been repeated a million times but need to ask lol , Considering I got a full motorbike licence , Do I still need to apply for a provisional licence for a car? , I did text my mate and his reply was … Your licence as it is should give car provisional entitlement , you need a theory to take your test though… , ok so guys can you clear this up for me please
would be much appreciated!
Dan
To be honest you’d think as a car instructor i’d know this one but i dont :D:D but when i did my bike test my full car licence acted as a provisional…
You already have a provisional entitlement to drive a car - but it won’t be on the back of your photocard - it is on the paper counterpart.
Having read in the summer about how the DVLA were taking entitlements off licences when people were sending them in for a change of address etc … I discovered my provisional car entitledment had dissapeared from my card … queue one rather angry rant down the phone … followed by a quick stumbled apology and hanging up the phone and feeling like a plum
I’ve just found my Counterpart Driving Licence Form , there is nothing on there that mentions I can drive a car on a provisional unless I’m looking in the wrong place but the sheet looks blank to me , even if that is the case does that mean I don’t need to apply for a licence then?
This is slightly confussing! :w00t:
I have provisional entitlement for A/B/F … in the box under your address?
Yes - provisional and previous entitlements are on the paper part of the license.
How long have you had your full bike licence? Basically if you passed your bike test before a certain date you don’t have to do a theory test and you already have a provisional entitlement to drive a car.
Dave passed his bike test 20+ years ago so didn’t have to do a theory test for the car and already had the provisional entitlement for a car…I on the other hand had to do a theory test for a bike when I applied for the DAS course in 2006 and I’d been driving a car since December 1992!
Provisional entitlement and theory tests are separate issues. A licence normally carries provisional entitlement for all the normal standard categories you have not yet passed a test on (things like PSV and HGV are not standard).
I looked into this a lot when I took my test as I have had a car entitlement for decades. It doesn’t mater when you passed you test, you will always need to do the theory on any class of vehicle you have not got full entitlement on. Once you have full entitlement on one license in a class, you don’t need to do the theory again for another license in that class. I am not sure how he managed to avoid the theory as bike and car are different classes, even moped and motorcycle are different classes. The only times you don’t need to do the theory are when, for example, you have passed a restricted test then take the DAS, or have an auto license but then take a manual test. Another situation is if the bike test was taken on a bike to small or slow for the full entitlement and you had what is called a small motorcycle license (full entitlement on sub-125 machines only) and you then took the full test.
DVLA make mistakes so it is possible to have entitlements you never qualified for, and before some date in the 60s if you got a car license you got automatic full motorcycle entitlement. I know people old enough to have never passed a test because during the war they just gave licenses away with no test as the exam system was closed down, and post war all those licenses were made permanent. On top of this the MOD has the power to give any serviceman any licenses they like with no test (at any age) and these are fully recognised by DVLA.
I can only assume he had some entitlement was the same class as a motorcycle license as described above as the DSA wouldn’t waive the theory otherwise.
He had a full motorbike entitlement…nothing else. He tried to book a theory test online and it wouldn’t let him so he called DVLA who told him he didn’t need to do one. He booked the practical and passed.
I agree with you on the fact that you don’t need to do a theory test when upgrading a current category, such as auto car licence to manual. I to spend a lot of time looking at all this stuff…I need to for my job. Dave’s situation surprised me, but hey-ho, its done…hence why I asked the question about the length of time the motorbike licence was held in my first post!
