opinions please

hey all,

just wanted your opinion on a fender kit as i wanna tidy up my tail on the cbr 6rr. ive seen these (below) but im not sure. what do you lot think or can you recommend something better that will make my bike look better. some come with a plate light??? never seen them in the uk b4…thought we tried to hide our plates:P

anyway,all opinions appreciated

im getting one of these and doing away with the indicators and puttin the numberplate under exhaust http://www.project-r.co.uk/it_honda.htm

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Kempo - I’m in agreement with Curtis here, if you can, try and get the tail tidy without the indicators, they look the mutts and are definitely the way forward!

ive seen these b4, i admit they do look the dogs bo****ks & would tidy the end up nicely,. but i would be a bit worried about them being noticeable on the road.

what do the rest of you think

well they aint illegal so no probs if they get noticed

curtis, i think you miss understood me, i meant other road users noticing, the lights are so close together people might not realize they’re indicators. i would rather someone know im moving over then them drive up my arse. but still, think im gonna order one:)

what bracket you using for plate? where from

o i c what a mean now! i not ordered 1 yet, my indicator is in post, i like the look of the 1 in the top right of your post, want something like that r&g do a few good 1’s apparently

Wrong there I’m afraid !

They aren’t ‘E’ marked & consequently aren’t legal under the Construction & Use (C&U) regulations.

From a use point of view, the main problem is that they aren’t really very clear especially in bright sunlight ( I hear a rumour that we may have some next summer…) & as they aren’t legal, it could complicate matters if some numpty knocks you off & claims not to have seen you indicating/braking.

although I can see everyones point about it being confusing…in a split second decision sort of thing…the whole point about back lights being used as indicators is totally tried and tested in the states…they think it works better than seperate indicators…especially as people are ususally looking at your back light most of the time it is mostly instantly noticeable…

yes and ‘e’ marking is just europes way of stopping cheap clever imports overunning our sometimes staid and out of date industries…but it is the law…

Think under standard indicating they might be OK, but there was a thread about these a while back and the main complaint that when braking, the braking light overpowered the indicator. I dont really like them myself, car drivers need more warnings, not more complicated ones.

depends which one you get, and how many leds/the quality they use. mine’s fine?

was riding with ayman on a freakily sunny day and i couldn’t see his small arrow indicators at all. he could see my integrated indicators fine

So are they leagal or not?

johnnybravo, pm sent. do you have normal indicaters too or just the intergareted ones?

which ones have you got? could you post up the link or pm me please.

a picture of your tail end would be great.

pm sent geez. even tho you asked nicely, i’m not posting up a pic of my arse. sorry :smiley:

Cheers mate

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Simple really, ask whoever you are buying them from if the model they are seling is ‘E’ approved & stamped, if they aren’t, then they’re not !

See this for relevant regs:

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roads/vehicles/vssafety/regulationsforpoweredtwoandt4564

*(i) Direction Indicators - on motorcycles first used on or after 1 April 1986 must be approved to EC Directive 76/759, 93/92, Chapter 2 of 97/24 or to ECE Regulation 6 or 50;

(ii) Stop Lamps and Front and Rear Position Lamps - on motorcycles first used on or after 1 April 1986 must be approved to EC Directive 76/758, 93/92, Chapter 2 of 97/24 or ECE Regulation 7 or 50;*

Fair enough, always good to have evidence against a theory. I’ll keep my big ol’ standard ones tho…just too cheap to pay for anything flash :slight_smile:

Hi Kempo

I went for the Evo tech tail tidy on my RR

find at:- EVOTECH PERFORMANCE | eBay Stores
Well made!!

For indictors I kept the standard ones but fitted clear covers. I personally did not like the quality of any of the after mark ones I could find.

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I’ve got the integrated rear light on my ZX6.

Tidies up the rear very well.

There’s no problem with the clarity etc at all, even with my one which is a smoked lens. It there were any clarity issues, I wouldn’t have it.

Make sure you by the one made by Clear Alternatives, made in the US. You can buy them from a company called Project R. Very good service etc. Find em on flea bay.

got the intergrated light from Clear Alternatives & the plate bracket from r & g. also got the puig screen & small plates.

ive tracked the parcels to the west london depot,i live 5 mins away so i went there today but they said i have to wait for the delivery…arrrr!!!.

are they easy to fit

West tiger had the lamp with integrated indicators on his Fazer a while back. It caused mayhem for those behind him on rideouts :crazy: It appeared clear till you had a bit of distance and then if he braked and signalled you were stuffed :slight_smile:

In honesty it looked wicked when stationary :cool: