Something leads me to believe that we are discriminated against somewhat?:w00t: What d’ya think what have happned if this was a biker? Like that bloke who had his boy on the back & was jailed for 10months (i think) for doing 120mph?!?! WTF?
From the text in the article he wasn’t doing 173mph. A stock Elise won’t do 173, not even close. I’m surprised he got fined and banned at all. With such poor evidence the case could have just as easily been thrown out of court.
It would be like me being done for doing 173mph on my CB500.
Very misleading title of the article (and this thread).
He was proven to have done 105mph … not 173mph.
The txt is slightly conflicting but does open doubt as to how the “clock” speeds? Oh well either way he’s a lucky sod!
Unlucky more like. He could have just had a stern talking to or nothing given that the evidence seems to be shambolic.
almost as misleading as him being reported for doing 173 mph !
Not really fella. The evidence is presented to court and the court decides what happened. The CPS have to prove it ‘beyond all reasonable doubt’ and the Defence have to prove it didn’t on at least a ‘balance of probabilities’.
On ‘conviction’ then that is what you have been proved to have done, no matter what is reported or alledged.
Using your example the same could be said that it was misleading to charge OJ Simpson with the Murder of his ex-wife and her friend in 1994 !!
I’m sorry, I don’t accept that, for it to go to court the CPS must have been convinced that he had a case to answer, if the evidence given was that he was clocked at 173mph and it was later accepted by the court that he was doing 105 mph then there must surely be severe doubt as to the acuracy of the evidence given ? this must then surely reflect badly on evidence given by the same officers/speed measuring device in similar cases when the decision came down to the defendents word against the police? I question this because I personally believe that most of the time that people who caught speeding are actually speeding, however in this case the variance between the stated speed and the “agreed” speed is so significant as to have conceivably cost this man his liberty! if (and I do mean IF) the report is correct then Derbyshire police need to reassure the public that they have gone above and beyond in their efforts to prove their equipment is sound, even if it means getting it checked by independant experts.
As to OJ… sorry I can’t find an emoticon for 2 fingers 
Police were just doing their job, but whoever files the paperwork to the CPS must be taking LSD or something to think that is in any way logical. £5k fine, wow, he must be a banker or something 
Makes you wonder though, how they came to 175mph. Are these home-office approved speed detection devices subject to failure, or did the operator just make a huge mistake?
Surprising he accepted the ban though. If you’ve got that much cash, you’ve gotta be able to afford a lawyer who could get that dismissed entirely. Perhaps he goes to church!
Sorry Trojan, that’s what the CPS accepted (and we all know they always take the path of least resistance)… the Police measure (time over distance) was 173. His legal team have done a deal, simple as that…
The guy basically scammed them… the 173 might well have been a little out due to operator error (police pilot) but I’d be willing to be it wasn’t that far out. When he got pulled he sussed he was and shipped the car overseas before it could be inspected or for that matter before it even occurred to plod to inspect it!
The car has a fly-by-wire throttle and he claimed it was unmodified thus the electronically limited top speed of 127 was used to throw doubt on the accuracy of the 173 police measure… The fact that the sneeky little so and so most probably had chipped the ECU is neither here not there as the car was long gone!
Are you familiar with the phrase “Police Proof” in this case there wasn’t huge room for error… they used a box to measure time over distance, that’s what the big white dots on the road are for… Even plod can push a button…
The ‘agreed’ speed was what his lawyer agreed with the CPS, it’s called a plea bargain… They knew that the apparently ‘unmodified’ nature of the car limited it’s speed to 127, but couldn’t examine the car to prove it’s ‘mod’ status… The CPS is tasked with getting a conviction, it doesn’t much care what it’s for, in this case they knew if they pushed it he might get off, so they took what they could get!
The Vid in this BBC report is more balanced BBC NEWS | England | Derbyshire | No jail term for '173mph' driver
Could you really modify that car and have it do 173 MPH ? Can’t see it myself:)
are you familiar with the term “operator error” ? 
I accept that he may well have plea bargained, however my original statement about public confidence stands.any suppositions about the state of the vehicle at the time of the offence are just that… suppositions, you would have thought with an offence that serious that the police would have seized the car as evidence there and then? anyway I’m not trying to argue the toss, its pretty clear the guy was speeding, its just the amount of excess speed and the penalty that is in question, if he really was doing 173 then he deserves the same treatment as handed out to several bikers in recent years.
Well 173 - 105 would be a stretch in terms of operator error… I totally agree with you, he’s pulled a blinder, and it’s annoying as he should have got the same treatment as everyone else.
If the CPS has some balls, they would have proceeded with the 173 and told him where to go… but they’re just looking for a quick win.
motorcycles have a limiter speed of 186, thats quick:D i was to beleive that motor cars had a limiter at 155 :hehe: is this gentlemans agreement stll in force 
The 186 limit was a gentlemen’s agreement between the Japanese manufacturers. the 155 limit is for cars sold in Germany. In France all bikes are limited to 100 bhp if I remember correctly.
With most things it would be possible to bypass such limits.
Could the Lotus do 176? Possibly, as the police never got to inspect the car they have no idea what modifications were done. It may have had the engine replaced, along with the gearbox.
I think that Porsche started a long time ago to waive the restrictions for cars sold in Germany (or never even put it in) and other manufacturers followed as they were under pressure from customer who said I don’t want to spend tousands of €€€ for a sports car which can only do funny 250kmh (155mph). We have people blasting down the motorway with more then 300kmh (186mph) and make you look like you are parking while you trying to speed with your sports bike.
hmm well it seems motorbikes have gone to over 200mph on that stretch of road… but they couldn’t get done cause they were so fast the number plates couldn’t be read:):):)
I do question their speeding devices… seems like a joke… over 200mph on that kind of road???