National speed limit to be cut to 50mph?

I had a quick look but didn’t see this posted already? Not sure if it’ll get the green light but a bit crap if it does…

*The new 50mph limit is intended to reduce the high death toll on rural roads, where, in 2007, 69% of car crash fatalities took place. It will apply to single carriage A, B and C roads. Local authorities will have the power to raise the limit to 60mph on the safest roads, but will have to justify it.

Ministers plan to use average speed cameras, which monitor speeds over distances of up to six miles, to help enforce the new limit. The cameras have already been installed at 43 locations. The Home Office is expected to approve their wider use later this year*

Not as simple as The Times makes it out to be. the goverment can’t just decide to cut or even raise speed limits. Will never happen…I hope!:w00t:

Interesting, what would they need to go through/who can decide then?

Would imagine lots of consultation with lots of committees, and at the end of the day, it wouldn’t exactly be a vote getting thing to do for any goverment:)

I’m no expert, just my view.

I would think you’re right. I reckon old GB has asked each department to come up with controversial ideas to put the public and media off the scent of the current economic crisis and his ineptitude at managing it :smiley:

Cynical, moi?

This country is going down the toilet! … It is one of the most taxed places in the world, has the most speed camera’s, and now potentially the slowest speeds

The government would rather cut speed, than educating drivers, and improving road conditions

If it goes ahead, I’ll be leaving the country for good!

oops my plate fell off:D:D:D

Think you may have hit the nail on the head!

Cynical??? never:w00t:

Didn’t think you had one on ratty:w00t:

Well if this is controlled via the current generation of SPECS cameras you won’t need to remove it - they are only licensed for forward facing usage :smiley:

Did anyone spot that the research that backs this recommendation was from the manufacturer of SPECS - nice and objective I’m sure!

I can’t see what difference 10mph will make to the accident rate myself…

Since when did this Government or its lackeys care about what we think or the results of public consultation?

See the latest one on fluoridation of water supplies in the South West - 75% are against, but the Govt pushes ahead anyway. Weren’t the majority against expanding the congestion charge zone, so what did Ken the Newt do?

The best way to stop it is to club together and make a donation to the Labour party…if we manage it right (need to ask Bernie) we even get the money back afterwards.

Don’t forget that Gordon Broon doesn’t drive, so he’s not bothered that more people die of infections caught in hospital than die on the roads, all he sees if £££££££ from motorists. Don’t expect much from the other lots either, Cameron is too busy posing on cycles and putting wind turbines on his house to worry about such old-fashioned and non-PC subjects as making progress on roads.

Ian

I think it would be a bad step but in practice it may make little difference - most driver seem to think that the limit is 50mph anyway and on roads with national speed limit they slow down to 50 at cameras.

This is because the limit used to be 50 and many drivers are not aware it had been increased. I know this because I was one of them until I did DAS and found out the national limit had been raised to 60.

have your say b4 its 2 late

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/noNSLreduction/

For the anal(ysts) amongst us, I should point out that:
Between 1865 and 1896 locomotives on the highway had to be preceded by a pedestrian carrying a red flag and were subject to a speed limit of 2mph in cities, towns and villages and 4mph elsewhere
On 28 January 1896, Walter Arnold of East Peckham, Kent became the first person in Great Britain to be successfully charged with speeding. Travelling at approximately 8 mph, he had exceeded the 2 mph speed limit for towns. Fined 1 shilling (5p) plus costs, Arnold had been caught by a policeman who had given chase on a bicycle so began one of the most lucrative ways of making money by Local Authorities and the Exchequer
The maximum speed limit was then increased to 14mph and again, in 1903, to 20mph.
In 1930 speed limits for cars and motorcycles were abolished.
In 1934 a general 30mph speed limit was imposed on roads in built up areas (effectively roads with street lighting) which remains to this day.
Other roads had no speed limits at all. It was not until 1965 that a national upper limit of 70mph was introduced for all roads, including motorways.
Since 1977 the speed limit for cars and motorcycles on dual carriageways has been 70mph, with a 60mph speed limit on single carriageways.

There was, for those old enough to remember it, a a brief period during the fuel crisis of the 70s that speed limits were reduced to 50 mph on unrestricted roads.

If only our fines were the same as Arnold’s.

Ian

was there last time i looked…officer:D…lol i’m a good boy Mo!:w00t:

Remember that a Consultation doucument can be commented on by anyone.

If loads of bikers/drivers respond and ask for an acknowledgement it will overwork the department and really make them think.

sadly you are all misinformed, the government in 2006 i think introduced a bill that allows councils to change speed limits without consultation. They can do jolly well what they like and believe me local councils will…Guiliano should help us here……they are such idiotic zealots that only the old and infirmed have the time to attend and all of the oldies have forgotten what living is about…

They still relate speed to deaths when they know, we know the police know but say they dont that it is not the speed its the bad driving that causes road deaths…

Now does anyone see the real link here…

mostly old fogies in council…mostly bad drivers

reducing speeds means they can have more accidents and will cause less damage if they are forced to go slower…easy street for the elderly…

Bit simplisitc…but there is an element of truth in it…speed is not the killer, bad driving is…some road users have never read the highway code since the turn of the 20th century, let alone the 21st century…but should 22 million people really be invonvenienced because 0.0001363 % of car users die every year…or less than 0.00004% of the population are killed for whatever reason, the truth is we all die…some are missed more than others but death isnt the end of life, it just makes way for others to live…get real world…give us frightfully freedom

I was going by the fact that the newspaper article stated that there would be a consultation (not that I have blind faith in the papers of course, far from it).

The more they legislate, the more road users will just drive illegally in some way.

It’s not as if the Police will be out there stop these people either, as they’re seemingly being replaced by cameras on the road.

A camera is not human and will not give chase if I have fake plates, no plates, magic flipping plates or simply a plate whose registration disappears at the flick of a button :smiley:

someone on a van forum earlier was saying they’re looking at putting ANPR cams into cats-eyes now, so every car would be recorded…