Nanny state or Responsible Governance?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/8052090.stm

I think putting him on the register is a bit far. it’s not like he poses a threat to society.

weird fella though

I would of loved my dad to have organised something like that when I was fourteen. . .:DMost hormonal teenage lads would love to bang a prostitute if they got the chance.

On the other hand and looking at it objectively - a parent organising something like that for their son is kinda distasteful from our cultural perspective - perhaps people from a macho latin culture would disagree and see it as healthy.

On the wider question of prostitution - I think it should be legalised - as should drugs - criminalising prostituion and drugs and driving them underground just breeds criminality - e.g. all that prohibition in the states in the 30’s achieved was to create the Mafia. . .

Thinking back (a long way) to when I was a teenager I remember one of my ‘posh’ friends got a trip up to Soho as a sixteenth birthday present from his dad. He later told me in all seriousness that he always tried to see a prostitute a few hours before he went with his girlfriend as it improved his performance no end :w00t:

I wonder what the wife will say when theyn get home.

I agree totally.
I do think 14 is a bit young tho’, if he wanted to give his child an ‘education’ no better teacher than a pro’.

I disagree here, the type of prostitution that doesn’t affect us is the type of protitution that we dont see, ie the high class prostitution… if they legalised that there would be no real impact…

however, its the prostitution that we do see, and when i say we (i mean those who live in areas that are used my prostitutes and pimps) There is a road in liverpool that is renown for prostitution and pimping and I for 3 years lived along this road, regularly seeing people stopping and picking the girls up. This is the type of prostitution would have NO benefit what so ever from legalisation of it or drugs. If you were to walk along this road, on an average day/night you’d have seen 4 or 5 girls. I used to say hello to some of them when i saw them and often they’d say hello back, it was all about making them feel normal and trying to treat them like a real human. One thing that was clear though. was that they were virtually all bag-heads. They were addicted to drugs and were going on the game to feed their habit…If you legalised drugs, the prices would not fall, they would remain the same, I do not think for one second that drugs would become the subject of the laws of supply and demand. This drug abuse often leads to a spiral of decline and can result in robberies and muggings as the desperation grows to feed their addiction. If the prices of drugs doesnt change then these women will still need to go on the game to fund their addiction. Throw in a pimp and the situation is even more dire as these women are often fed drugs by their pimps and are abused mentally and sexually by them and the people that they “service”.

I think what this fella did was shocking and I think 100% he belongs on the sex offenders list. Think about the message that he is sending to his son… “oh yes son, its fine to break the law and have sex with prostitutes, we’re just going to go and sexually abuse someone who is probably already hugely vulnerable, so that you can say you have broken your cherry”. What he did was illegal, its illegal to pick up someone for sex and more to the point, if he’d have watched it, then would have almost certainly have committed an even graver crime.

How are we meant to progress as a society when parents like this give the next generation the view that there are no problems breaking laws and not thinking about the concequences of their actions on themselves, but more importantly on OTHER people.

Beats getting a fuggin Woolworths voucher for yer birthday any day!

Sorry Kml - I don’t agree - making drugs and prostitution illegal is just giving the criminal or potential criminal element in our society a huge opportunity to make serious money and ruin the lives of the the young women who work for them and the drug addicts who rely on them for their supply - plus there is the trafficking in vulnerable young women issue.A properly regulated system of legal prostitution and access to class A drugs would undercut these criminals overnight - prostitutes would not have to rely on dangerous exploitative pimps either - and could operate in safe and legitimate premises - working for themselves or for legally accountable agencies.

And who says the price of drugs would not come down - of course it would if cocaine and cannabis was harvested on a non clandestine and legitimate commercial scale - negating the need for the addicted to commit crime.

If alcohol was illegal and had to be sourced from illegal distilleries located in isolated jungle hideouts and then smuggled from various far away countries into the UK it would I reckon be a lot more expensive than it currently is!

We already have a dangerous and legally available drug - alcohol - which is abused by a percentage of the population and leads to crime and mayhem on the streets at weekends - similarly - if we legalise drugs we will still have a percentage of people who will go on and become addicted and ruin their lives just as they do at the moment with alcohol - but the consequences for society will be less severe if they do not have to commit crime to raise the enormous amounts of money needed to feed their habit. It will also mean that violent and unscrupulous non-tax paying criminals will not be allowed to become as rich as bankers!

I am neither pro-prostitution or drugs - I use neither - however people have become/used prostitutes and taken drugs for thousands of years and will continue to do so - it is a part of the human condition and should be recognised as such rather than swept feebly under the carpet - a position of denial which is hugely destructive in its consequences - as indicated above.

And not everyone who uses drugs becomes addicted - I used to get p1ssed on alcohol a lot and sampled various illegal substances in my teens and twenties and never became addicted to any of them - I hardly even drink these days let alone take drugs! just as not everyone who likes a drink becomes an alcoholic - as I’m sure a lot of people on here can testify.

what he said!!