OK
I just did a quick price comparison and the difference is in the delivery 
PJB offer a 1.5M x 16mm Squire Excaliber chain and Squire SS65 padlock at £159.99 delivered
Almax offer a 1.5M x 16mm Almax III chain and Squire SS65 padlock at £159.99 + £7.95 delivery
However, since Almax offer free delivery to LBers my only remaining rational is that if a Squire padlock is good enough why not a Squire chain too?
I don’t know Art, it seems that every time there’s a chain discussion you come down quite hard on the Anti-Almax side. For example, back here:
http://londonbikers.com/forums/Topic930613.aspx
you were pretty scathing too. Even in your last post here on this thread, where you finally admit to price parity,you’re still trying to find reasons for people not to buy an Almax (“if a Squire padlock is good enough why not a Squire chain too?”). Just seems like they may have wronged you in another life or something 
In any case it’s all immaterial, if people don’t like Almax they should buy Squire or another brand of 16mm chain, lock the bikes up safely so that we can all go riding again. And Art can’t carry a big chain on his bike because it would make him sink on rideouts with Chris 
I thought it was a fair question
It wasn’t the weight of the chain it was the bloody anchor it came with
Very much +1 on this.
I bought some stuff from them a couple of years back and they really went out of their way to sort out what I wanted, even though half of it wasn’t something they normally sold or dealt with.
Nice people, excellent service and great products.
I have a 1.5m almax III. Personally I could never transport it around. Too heavy.
Could look into pragmasis too as they are another almax competitor!
But if you ring almax they know their stuff. Really helpful on everything too.
Almax Series IV here. You guys are lightweights. Carry the proper chain to secure your bike! 
I have CCTV underground gated covered parking, so chain stays at home. 
Neighbour had a 16mm Squire chain that was cropped and he lost his R6. Now has a Series IV chain like me. Job jobbed and his nice bike is now safe again.
Now I’m not sure what to get. I was set on aalmax 16mm 1.5m with Squire SS65CS StrongholdLock. I understand a good chain will be heavy but I need to be able to carry it in a ruck sack or something…
You guys have confused me even more:hehe:
I have a 1.5m 16mm diameter chain and I wouldn’t carry it in a rucksack - not only is it heavy but it would be a very unpleasant shape to thump into your back if you fell off :crazy:
I got a bag that straps to the pillion seat but that might be a bit more tricky with a SM
My thought’s exactly. I will give almax a call see if they have any suggestions
On a side note, my insurance stipulates I should use a chain or a D-Lock on spoked wheels and a disc lock doesn’t count as one additional pieces on security on it as per my insurance.
I’m getting an almax 2metre chain, I’m sure I will find somewhere secure to go through
To give you an idea
The Squire SS65CS padlock weighs in at 1.1 kg
2M of Almax III 16 mm chain weighs about 9.5 Kg
2M of Almax IV 19 mm chain weighs about 12.5 Kg
In real money that’s a total weight of 6 or 7 bags of sugar or, 14 litres of water or, a full to the brim pouch of Royal Mail letters and packets :crazy:
I really want to destruction test one of those almax chains . Put it through the trials of pain and see what the results are . Can I break one quietly and quickly like I can all the other ones .
apparently, what is consider good antitheft is a lock that cant be opened in less than 30 seconds.
almax and everything else do not guarantee they cannot be opened at all, just they claim they can resist for about 1 minute. that to me is still not good enough.
but if you still have to use chains, two chains a bike cover AND a tracker is the only way to go.
