Mid-terraced houses: how to get bikes to garden?

I doubt they would. Can’t hide the fact of how ugly it will look

That’s exactly what I was thinking… I would love to just build a small garage in there but I strongly doubt I’d ever get planning permission for that, let alone neighours consent.

So went around the area and visited 8 houses. Seriously, that’s the best one by far for the price… AAAAARRRGH!

It looks however that the council rents garages about 500yards away for £8/week, so that could be an option.

bargain, do it.

i take it there is no rear access? :smiley:

you mean he can take it up the back passage ? :wink:

might be a tight squeeze but he might be able to get it in :w00t:

If your heart is set on that house, you could try contacting the local planning peeps or perhaps a local architect to see what the chances are of getting something built out front, doesn’t need to be full garage sized and it could probably be pretty well hidden if you built it into the garden so it’s mostly hidden.

I’m guessing the chances are slim but it doesn’t hurt to ask.

Don’t think it needs to have planning permission if its under a certain size.

Ask oldguy for some advice.

that applies to rear extensions, its very different at the front, especially if within 2 metres of a road or public footpath…

If I was in that situation I’d dig down and hide some sort of small structure behind the wall. You’ll prob need to give it some sort of damp proofing which can be expensive then just make the top of the building a flower bed using a waterproof membrane. If noone notices it then they won’t complain.

Since DanielGT has suggested it, I’ll offer the advice before you ask. So, in no particular order:

Why worry about getting the bikes into the back garden shed. That’s Woolwich. They will just nick the whole effing shed with the bikes in it if they want to. (They stole a whole steel shipping container full of tools and materials from one of my sites a few years back. A shed should be no problem, just a training exercise.)

Stop worrying about the floor, except for cosmetic damage.

I used to get an 1970’s 800cc BMW into my front hall with no problems. And the “undersized” joists had old woodworm damage.
Think about it. How many Victorian houses had massive lumps of furniture including book cases full of books, and pianos with all that load coming down on to four small feet? A motorcycle is nothing by comparison.

“Building” in the front garden? Not a hope. Even under the new National Planning Policy Framework* you don’t stand a chance of any sort of “permanent” structure.

(*You might be able to build a new housing estate on ancient woodland under NPPF but construction in front of the “building line”? Not a hope.)

Only one option left then - tunnel under the house.

Only one option left then - tunnel under the house.

Looking at the photo, that’s not as daft as it sounds. Well, not a tunnel but a small cellar under the front room looks pretty easy, though a bit pricey.

Nowt more secure than a cellar with a decently secured door under the front of bay window.

Not sure I’d like the aesthetics though. Kind of depends on how that’s handled.

As others have pointed out it wont take long to get fed up so if you are buying you would be better finding something better in the longterm for you both given your interest in bikes

And if you are just renting for a short time, I dont imagine the landlord would be chuffed.

I cant imagine you would be taking your bike into your house at night when you get home late and its been pissing down. You would need to park up, protect your floors and then struggle to get the bikes up steps and into your house and then back out again…it doesnt take long for a room then house to stink of petrol :wink:
I find putting the cover on my bike when its raining an effort, never mind all that
Also the neighbours might not appreciate the noise of bikes running in the back garden close to the bedroom on a regular basis.
I hope you find something suitable

The best solution I could come up with is clearing the flower bed and park the bikes in there. Then try and cover them with a retractable canopy. That should keep building regs at bay as there is no permanent structure.

The idea of digging a basement under will be as ordguy says “pricey”. It would certainly be possible, but getting planning permission for that would be very difficult in my opinion. I will be talking to the planning office this afternoon to see what options we have.

That said it’s truly annoying, and we are still looking elsewhere. I am lucky enough to have a biker GF so it’s not only for me and having a garage/side access is twice as important.

Another house is the best option

Megamale Digging out the flower beds in the front garden might sound like a piece of piss but you mat well have to put in a retaining wall to stop the front of the house deciding it wants to migrate towards the road. Depends on the depth of the foundations under the front wall.

If they go down to, say, the street footpath level, your probably o.k. Anything higher you have to put in alternative structure before you can dig out the garden.

My experience of Victorian/Edwardian houses in SE18 is that I never understood why they were still standing and upright(ish) as they had so little holding them up.

(Not quite as worrying as my own place a bit further South that has no, I repeat, no foundations. Just built off some old farmyard cobbles.)

If it migrates you`ll get more floor space and add value.

Obviously that’s not a picture of the exact property you’re looking at, because that would be an error of judgement that reveals to locals what bikes you might have, the security problems you have, and what you may do in the future to resolve them.

Just checking.

I think the unsecured bikes left outside of a house would be more of a clue to the scrotes ;).

I’m not sure i’d recognise many of the houses on local roads from a picture like that anyway