KillSpills 617 - Paul Mostyn's message

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It seems not many people have signed up for the KillSpills ride this year. Those of you who registered and are awaiting emails (which seem not to have arrived), just get back on the site and sign up.

Paul Mostyn posted the following on TLB:

Dear All

I am refreshed to see that you are supporting this worthy cause, and that since I spoke to Stem, more of you have signed up. I thank you for that.

Its time to be honest with you all (that’s a new one for a copper) but I have heard that this ride may be in jeopardy.

Steve Edwards of KillSpills has not had the amount of people booked to cover the cost of his stamps, let alone the outlay pledged by the BMF.
They (the BMF) are thinking of downsizing the whole event so that they will not be criticised for wasting member’s money. I can see why, no one likes to waste money - especially me!–><IMG alt= src=“http://www.thelondonbikers.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif” border=0 >

Steve Edwards has put his heart and soul into this project, lets face it, diesel spills are a menace and always in the minds of us bikers.
He is trying to raise the awareness of the person filling up – showing them that they are responsible for 617 persons being killed or seriously injured AND explain to the general motoring public what to look out for. Not all these 617 killed or injured were motorcyclist .

I am leading the ride round London and up the motorway and being given the honour of leading the ride round the track where we are going to try for a new world record. I want 617 people behind me, and I want one of them to be you please.

So, spread the word. Get the gang together, book on at www.killspills.org.uk and make sure you pay your money. As Grandma explained, you are getting back more than you initially pay for and you get another chance to run red lights in town !!! :crazy

Thanks for your time and I hope to see you on the 26th nice an early. It will be a fun day out with your favourite London coppers.

PFM

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Its a worthy cause no doubt, but i would hazard a guess as to why people arent signing up.

IMHO Killspills should be about thousands of bikers shutting down london, like last year, this year you have to pay, and its only partly in london with laps of donning too?, I dont mean to be out of place here but what does that have to do with killspills… Its the average car/lorry driver we need to get through to, while im sure visiting news rooms will do some good, shutting down london with the sheer number of bikes as last year will surely generate more publicity?

My two cents…

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^^^ wot he said…

Pretty much what i have put on another forum i visit.

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In previous years there was f-all coverage in the media. This year we will be stopping at ITN and the BBC, yes right outside, and we will get some TV exposure at last. This will do far more good than making loads of motorists (late for whatever) pissed-off with bikers blocking their path - that was the wrong message entirely!

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The format this year inevitably excludes people who would otherwise activley participate. I know I would, but currently, I can’t.

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the kill spills website doesn’t seem to be working

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Work fine from here… …and I have just about everything potentially dodgy blocked.

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hmmm, not working for me. Not working when I google it either. I just get a blank front page

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The site uses frames (deprecated but not necessarily so bad they should be blocked) on the same server, so should be fine. Your browser settings may be too fiercely paranoid (not necessarily bad) or you may be using a duff ISP…

If an AOL user, use IE or Firefox directly rather than going through the AOL ''children’s library" portal? Same goes for any other ISP that provides a ‘portal’ - bin it! It’s YOUR Internet, not theirs!!!

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Have to agree with that. I don’t recall any coverage in the general media in previous years, the '000s of bikes, although impressive, were just not creating the required publicity. I can see why they want to try a different way.

I’m in!

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still getting as blank page and unfortunately Jim, most of what you said has gone over my head

Is there a phone number or an email address?

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I’m signed up and ready to rock on this one.

Its starting at 7:30am so we wont be blocking too many people in central london, and on the M1, its always bad, so who cares?

Also it is a T-shirt, brekka, entrance to BikeFest for £25, which went bike fest alone is £20 seems like a decent cost to me…

Sherry: this is the email I got:

Hi,
Sorry for the delay in sending out this email. We are very busy at the
moment.
Please find details on how to pay for your 617Ride ticket:
As you have already registered your details with us, all you need to do is
buy your ticket for the 617Ride using the phone number below. This is a
BMF phone number.
WHEN CALLING, PLEASE STATE THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY REGISTERED. You will then
be required to confirm your registration details over the phone before
payment.
VERY IMPORTANT: PLEASE DO NOT USE THE ONLINE REGISTRATION AND PAYMENT
FACILITY ON OUR KILLSPILLS WEBSITE (AS YOU HAVE ALREADY REGISTERED).
ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS CALL 08450 900 157 TO MAKE PAYMENT.
Once you have made payment, your free KillSpills 617Ride T-shirt,
identification wristband and Welcome Break breakfast voucher will be sent
to you by post a couple of weeks before the ride.
Further Information
RIDERS AND PILLIONS ARE BOTH REQUIRED TO REGISTER AND BUY A TICKET TO
ATTEND THE 617 RIDE
(Rider Ticket Price = £25, Pillion Ticket Price = £15)
Please Note - Pillions under 14yrs of age can attend the ride for free BUT
still require registration (if not already done so) to obtain their free
617Ride T-shirt, ID Wristband and Welcome Break breakfast voucher.
Your ticket grants you access to the 617Ride, BikeFest UK event and the
Donington 4000 World Record Attempts.
If you decide not to enter the ride after buying a ticket, please inform
us by sending an email to [email protected]. Your ticket will still
be valid for the BIKEFest UK 2007 event and World Record track attempt.
Sorry, we are unable to refund unwanted tickets.
Please call the number below to buy your ticket for the KillSpills 2007
617Ride:
Phone: 08450 900 157
9am - 5pm, Mon - Fri
Please send me an email if you have any queries.
This year’s KillSpills event is set to be the best yet! Thank you very
much for your support. It is much appreciated.
See you at Embankment, 7 - 7.30am, 26th May 2007!
Many Thanks,
Mark Prichard
KS Team

Try the number and also the email address here: [email protected]

Should be a laugh

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thanks Elad - I’m now signed up.

One last question - when exactly is it?

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didnt read the end of the email then???

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Why not have the same format as last year but also include the stops to the ITN/BBC newsrooms, I personally reject the idea of having to pay to protest (I can pay for my own fuel thank you). So goodluck to all of you going on the ride, do us proud, and lets hope this format does generate the publicity…

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Nope sorry I have done the two previous ones but I will not do this out of principle.

Kills Spills is about a protest movement, demonstrating in large numbers to the leaders of this country that this needs dealing with and it is a cheap and easy thing to do.

All of a sudden it became about a nice ride in the country for the select few, who co-incidentally have to pay for the priviledge. Sorry it’s lost the plot

What would have been better would have been a co-ordinated Kills Spills Rally timed to be a simultaneous assault on the houses of Parliament, Welsh, Scottish and Norn Ireland assemblies. Also a good target would have been the major metropolises of Bham Manchester Nottingham etc.

Getting a hundered thousand bikers on a mass protest that grinds the country to a stop will result in publicity and action, a few hundred bikes out for a paid jolly will not, congratulations Kills Spills and Paul Mostyn you have allowed yourselves to be hoodwinked into losing the impetus, lets hope you realise what you have done wrong and get back to a protest for next year

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Interestingly AbbeyJ and I have sent off the entrance cost as a donation this year as we are in the States when this years ride takes place.

Hope it all goes well, shame we cannot make it.

Regardless of where it is staged, its a worthwhile cause.

J&K

P.S. The monies quoted by the BMF in their members mag back in Feb I think, might have given rise to problems. Someone on here posted this up before but the prices they quoted were not matching what we had seen as BMF members!!

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They’ve only got about 100 confirmed booked paid-up attendees so far (as of this morning), and I must know 20 of them! It’s going to be a great ride, the ‘entrance’ fee is actually a bargain for what you get, and it’ll be a gas!

Spread the word in other forums etc.

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to be fair - i honestly think this is a good cause which is why i am gutted that i cant make it …

also, where do you get to do a “trackday” at donny for £27??

Come on people sign up for this!!!

i understand the issue about not paying to protest and doing the rally the way it was done previously, but why not just ask the organisers why they have decided to go the way they are doing it this year???

it could be that this is a more effective way of getting the message across???

i dont know but what i do know is that they deserve our support!!

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[quote] AbbeyJ - also, where do you get to do a "trackday" at donny for £27?? [/quote]

Erm… Trackday £27 quid?

Where do you get that from? I dont remember the £25 fee including you doing a trackday?!

the Bikefest does have the option for a 15 minute session for £20 and im sure that’s not included in the £25 killspills fee.

I did ask on another forum i frequent why it was being done like this this year to which the reply was:

[quote] RE the change of tactics, thats the way it is. If we were not doing this, there would be no rally.... its as simple as that. We woudl not receive the necessary approval to take 10,000 bikes to parliament... and if we dis, what would we be doing... saking the DfT to fund anti diesel spill leaflets for us.... well they are doing that.

I agree that the price £25 is putting people off. the problem I have is that I will have 617 bikes to refuel in 50 minutes, the only way that can be done is f I buy the fuel in advance, get riders to ride up, opebn their tank, a marshals will despense the fuel and then they go and park up.

We simply do not have the time for each rider to refuel their own bike, queue up and pay for it.

The same applies to the breakfast. The services dont want 617 people queueing up for a breakfast, we could not feed these people within 50 minutes, so again, like the fuel, we are pre orderring the breakfasts and payying for them in advance.

Its the only way we can get you from London to Donington, without running out of fuel.

Your t shirt is needed so that we can identify you and to ensure you wont be stopped at the gates of bikefest UK to pay.

I hope you understand where we are coming from, It will be a great day for those of you who make the effort. THose of you who dont, well, thats your choice.

Whatever you do ride safe

Steve
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