Hi guys,
bcs I´m finaly and seriously looking for some bike, I want ask for something (yes, again ). My favourite is R6 or GSXR 600 (around 2002 year). Today I Was at Lloyd Cooper in Watford aks how much cost restriction. For R6 I have to pay 176 pounds for restriction kit + around 200 (!!!) pound for work (bcs they are not a Yamaha dealer)…It is usual price? If I buy a SV 650 Sport from them, I have to pay ,just" about 200 pounds for restriction (this price is allright for me), but SV is not my favourite… For bike I want spend around 3000 pounds, If I buy a some R6 (or gixxer) around 2000-2500 pounds, I must spend about 400 (maybe more) for restriction…and its not a fair deal
And bye the way,
If somebody knows about some allready restricted R6 or GSXR around Watford, let me know…
Well what you have to look at is the layout of the engines on those beasts. (Also, I have an SV so I’m a little biased, but I’ll brush that under the carpet.)
Your usual sports bikes, R6’s, Gixxer 600’s etc have engines in an inline-4 layout, that is all four cylinders align next to each other along a single shaft. This layout provides smashing top-end, but what tends to be a lethargic, hard-to-manage bottom end. Basically, the power band is in the upper quartile of the rev range.
A V-twin, on the other hand, produces all it’s power and torque at the bottom of the rev range. I can pull cleanly at 1500rpm on my SV, that’d likely stall one of the inline-4’s (correct me if I’m wrong). The restriction they put on the bikes (either ECU restriction or modify the carb sleeves) will take away the top end of the rev range by limiting how much fuel can get into the cylinders to go bang.
As such, on one of the sportier bikes is likely to be harder to handle than the SV, which carries all it’s power in the bottom of the rev range, perfect for a restricted bike (Mine’s 33bhp, by the way). So personally, I’d suggest you get yourself the SV, it’ll be easier to work with.
But that’s all conjecture, it depends on the rider. Talk to Raquib, he’s got a restricted R6.
Thanks, i know this thing, in another topic I wrote the same thing…4-line valves is not good for restriction, bcs they have power on top…SV is much better for this (V valves), however R6 or GSXR have a better suspension and is better for riding on cirquits…Im not sure, bcs R6 is my dream bike, my heart tell me to get R6, but my mind telling me get SV, bcs it can be much better restricted…thanks for reccomend
Well, if it’s good handling you’re going for, you’d be better off getting the SV and if you don’t agree with the handling and suspension (don’t know why you wouldn’t, it’s not going to have a huge effect in the first few years of riding), then replacing the rear shock and fork internals.
If you’re really determined you can swap SV and GSXR front ends. Even then it’ll be cheaper to buy, run, restrict and insure than an R6.
Especially for the first few years of riding, I’d suggest you go with your head before your heart. There’s always the future, and then you can get yourself a brand new R6. Luvley.
Yes, you are right…however this is not my firs bike, this will be my first bike in UK, in czech (where im from) i had Aprilia AF1 Futura and after that FZR 600…I think that best way is buy a SV for this season, sell it on autumm and next year buy not restricted R6 2007 - my dream bike! (bcs in winter i will have a 21 years and i can make a driving license for all size motorcycles)…
What’s your questions? I’ve got a restricted 2007 R6. I did not pay that much that you’re being quoted for a kit. I paid in total £175 fitted from the dealer when I bought the bike. Basically I only paid for the kit and got the fitting in the price of the bike. I have had a look at F1 international who make the kit and now the same kit for my bike is £176. I don’t know why the shop is asking for so much, mine is a throttle restriction and doesn’t need that much work. My kit comes off in July 10 and can sell it to you if it fits your bike if you want.
That price you have been quoted on the R6 is way too much. Should be £150 kit + £50 labour.
And i wouldnt bother with the SV, i have a zx6r at 33bhp and it is noticably faster than my friends SV. Plus the R6 would handle 10 times better!
Thanks guys :D,
I was sure with SV, but now I again dont know…I want spend for bike around 3000 + around 300-400 for jacket ( helmet, boots and gloves my mum already sent me from czech, i just waiting for post - its to slow). What you recomend? I think that SV should be a better ( V valves), but Tom B1H wrote that is not true…i realy dont know
And again,
if somebody knows about some restricted bike for sale, let me know…
Great little bikes the SV650 may be , but at least inline fours are making progressive and predictable power , and they dont run out of puff , and you dont have to change half the bike to make them handle .
ooooh bit of sv bashing going on. ive had standard suspension on my sv650 k3 for two years and never had a problem keeping with other bikes expect blades and 1098’s theres always power with them yes goes a little flat in the middle and tops out earlier but off the track its a good bike just like the rest
Thanks guys :D,
I was sure with SV, but now I again dont know…I want spend for bike around 3000 + around 300-400 for jacket ( helmet, boots and gloves my mum already sent me from czech, i just waiting for post - its to slow). What you recomend? I think that SV should be a better ( V valves), but Tom B1H wrote that is not true…i realy dont know
And again,
if somebody knows about some restricted bike for sale, let me know…[/quote]
SV650’s are pretty quick round tracks too…obviously the twisty tracks like cadwell or brands indy are beter suited to them as the don’t have the top end of a 600 IL4…but considering the are sub 100BHP they hold there own very well;)
can i ask, why a big twin for the road? why not a big IL4?
my SV650 was fun in town, the SVThou i have curently can be bit too much intown at times- hydraulic clutch gets heavy and the bike gets hot quickly…frys ya bits:D
). My favourite is R6 or GSXR 600 (around 2002 year). Today I Was at Lloyd Cooper in Watford aks how much cost restriction. For R6 I have to pay 176 pounds for restriction kit + around 200 (!!!) pound for work (bcs they are not a Yamaha dealer)…It is usual price? If I buy a SV 650 Sport from them, I have to pay ,just" about 200 pounds for restriction (this price is allright for me), but SV is not my favourite… For bike I want spend around 3000 pounds, If I buy a some R6 (or gixxer) around 2000-2500 pounds, I must spend about 400 (maybe more) for restriction…and its not a fair deal 