nice plane!
I heard this on the radio today.
yes duck…
i hope smiled was not waving too mamy lollipops at that plane,
dont look at me…im off work today…;).
turns out it might have stalled just b4 the runway…ohh well …
no one hurt…altho…the 777 is a phuckin huge aircraft…used to work on them when i was doing the saudi…big ol boys…and for an entire landing gear to shear off…it must have come down with a hell of a crack…!!
smiled:).
If it gave up before the runway it must have the same electrics as my bike.
well…keep in mind john…that the avionics in most aircraft are made by the lowst bidder…;)…
good job theres strict saftey measures that are in place when these things go in…
im really looking forward to hearing what the black boxes say about the whole thing…no doubt that when i get back to work on saturday that everyone will be an expert on the matter!!!..lololol…
smiled:D.
Well i’ll find out what the gossip is tomorrow. I thankfully was on duty in Gatwick so missed all the excitement. I left there at 14:30, and had actually heard nothing at all.
actually heard nothing at all.
You might have done if it had hit the tarmac rather than the grass!
Seriously, I was pleased (as, no doubt, we all were) that no-one was killed or seriously hurt.
I say damn good effort by the pilot for getting it on the deck, given that it seems he didn’t have much help to do so, like from engines and stuff.
Both engines failing at the same time on approach? Almost impossible without pilot error unless a long haul airline in a time of high fuel prices has been trying to economise too much.
in my honest opinion…the chances of two engines failing on the same aircraft are near on impossable these days without an absolutley bluddy good reason…
ie…fuel starvation/air starvation/loss of both engines physicley/blades failing…
and in any of these senarieos…there would of been a mayday call miles away…
i watched on the news that whitneses were saying that the arse end of the aircraft was bowing up and down and that there was a list to one side of the plane…
first thing that comes to my mind when you get an aircraft bowing up and down is its trying to get air flow into the engines…hence…a stall…
but to bow so close to landing…dont leave much room there does it?
hmmm…i dunno…like i said…im no expert…i just point and ppl fix…lol
smiled:).
Newsnight posed the fuel issue just after I did - however the experts are all being wheeled out to say wind sheer. That is of course a real possibility given the weather we have had recently.
Whatever it was it seems strange that the passengers had no idea there was a problem until they were asked to evacuate - the witnesses on board all seem to think the landing was normal if a little rough. If it was wind sheer then that might account for that, but looking at the pictures there seems little if any fuel spill which seems unusual given that the plane skidded along on the engines for a few hundred yards and the wings show signs of buckling under that stress.
One witness did say that they heard the wheels drop into position - when there obviously was power - and then the plane suddenly lurched downwards and then shortly afterwards hit the ground. Strange as I used to live in Richmond and the undercarriage used to be deployed as planes were going overhead - indeed, illegal immigrants from India have died falling form the undercarriage as it deployed in Manor Road Kew and what is now the Barnes Wetlands Centre. However, a plane with no fuel might delay deploying the undercarriage until the last possible moment precisely because it would cause a sudden increase in drag, loss of speed and loss of height if you did not have the engine power to compensate.
Whether it is sudden electronics or engine failure, lack of fuel, wind sheer or whatever, the pilot seems to have done an excellent job in the circumstances.
well for what i can gather at work today is that the pilot lost all power just on the final approach, it looks to me like he had deployed the undercarrige as otherwise it wouldnt have sheared off and gone up through the wing like it did… so the plane just kinda of dropped out of the sky like a very big stone!
but as there was no fire or what looks like no fuel spill the first thought i had was that he had run out of fuel, but i cant believe a pilot with 20yrs experience wouldnt make sure there was enough fuel onboard…
they where talking about bird strike’s, but those are pretty big engines to both get knocked out by birds…
Well I say bloody good job no one was seriously injured or killed. They put it down safely inside the perimeter. Plane will probably be fine with a new paint job…
It reminds me of the BMI flight that crashed just before the runway on the M1.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/january/8/newsid_2506000/2506665.stm
I was a bit annoyed by the massive traffic jams getting home from work today. News summed it up nicely. You think you’ve had problems getting home today… close to disaster but thankfully avoided.
Quite by chance there was a report on the BBC website today (or yesterday) of a commercial aeroplane which experienced a power failure in 2005, reported by the pilot but not checked out by the engineers so no ‘incident’ report was filed.
Spooky!
Regarding what the people on board said about not knowing anything was wrong…i was on a plane to varna few years back that overshot the runway and we didnt think anything of it til we got off and realised we were walking on a kind of dirt track! just thought it was a bit bumpy lol :w00t: Glad everyone walked away today though:D
It reminds me of the BMI flight that crashed just before the runway on the M1.
Methinks that was a direct result of ‘wonderful’ Boeings modifying the 737 without ensuring that the operators knew of the changes.
I watched and rewatched the programme about the tail-fin breaking off an Airbus over New York. The American pilots refused to fly that type afterwards, stating that the composite materials weren’t up to the job.
If I’m not mistaken, the new Boeing includes more than 50% composite materials in its construction. I wonder who they’ll get to fly it.
Plane in all likelihood is a write off, potential to much structrual damage. Probably be stripped for parts (seats, overhead bins etc).
But have heard nothing in work today. Very strange the place is normally buzzing with gossip over incidents. The only thing that I heard was bird strikes, but modern engines are designed for multiple strikes.