Have a puncture, not sure what to do

Sorry chaps probably seems the most silly thread but im a little unsure of how to deal with this one.

I rode the Vespa for the first time in a while the other day to pop down to Raynes park to watch a mates 7’s rugby teams. When I returned to the bike the back tire was completely deflated. Being the last to leave I was unable to get any help with the bike to get it any place.

Its now sat at the club and I am wondering how to resolve the issue.

Any suggestions, its is south london so any companies you know would be good.

Ta

hey there, a can of Tyre Weld available from most garages will get you moving again, then you can take it to any bike shop or get a mobile tyre man to come to you.

been completely new to the world of bikes.

Do bike tyres have iner tubes like pedal bikes - if i use a can or this stuff will i reuin a pretty ok tyre or just an inner tube.

sorry for the silly questions.

Assuming you have a recent Vespa (not more then 20 years old, and even then it might be unlikely) you wil be running tubeless tyres, i.e. not like a pedal cycle, like a car tyre.

Best thing to do is to look at what has caused the puncture, popthe bike on the centre stand and spin it round and see what is in the tyre. That will give you an indication of what it is like to repair (i.e. a big gash and you wont be able to repair it). if there is a screw/nail then leave it in there, and see if you can get a foot pump and pump it back up again, and see how quickly it deflates. You might be able to ride it to a garage.

Tyre weld will seal/plug it up - the kit pretty much explains everything and they do work. If you are a member of the AA or RAC then they will sort you.

If the tyre is fairly new and you can get it to a garage, then get them to put a proper plug (i.e. one where they take the wheel off and plug it from the inside, rather than from the outside which is what the kit will do) in it and it will save you buying a new tyre. Or just get a fresh tyre.

Hope this helps

I had my rear tyre plugged by the RAC on Sunday, took all of 15 mins and apparantly they’re safe to use normally despite the warnings they give you. It’s a piece of rubber which is compressed into the hole with some vulcanising glue. Was set in 3 or 4 mins.

Ultraseal repairs punctures “As They Happen”. The repair is guaranteed to last the legal lifetime of the tyre.

Laboratory tested to 150 M.P.H and has been used in racing cars at over 200 M.P.H with no reported problems. Ultraseal never dries or balls in the tyre, cannot cause a balance problem.

In cases where the damage to the tyre is extreme ultraseal has been designed not to hide or mask the damage but to slowly bleed with the air from the tyre to allow the vehicle to come to a safe stop.

I have been using ultraseal myself for the last four years in various motorbikes.

because of the way the product works heat distribution in the tyre is improved giving better road adhesion, as well as tyre life and the added confidence knowing you have extra protection from blowout and puncture gives you as a rider.

I carry a Rema Tip Top kit - same as the RAC use - and it takes me only 10minutes to get going agin. :cool:

They cost anywhere between £18 - £25 depending on where you get 'em. Hein Gericke or eBay, loads of other bike sources do them too.

I’m still running with a plug in the rear after about 3000miles. Should not really do that I guess, but the 2 previous repairs never gave out until the relevant tyre was worn out anyway.

Certainly Vespas with cast wheels are tubeless. The older ones where the wheel is two halves bolted together have inner tubes (the old school scooterists love them as the wheels are held on from one side so if you carry a spare inner tube you can split the wheel, retube and be back on the road in under 10 minutes)

As for pluging them, there are issues with small diameter wheels that limit the options for legal pluging, but as tyres are likely to be £50 including fitting that shouldn’t be too much of a problem.

Where in Raynes Park is this bike BTW?

What’s the model? If it’s a PX (or anything older), stick on the spare wheel and put in a new tube when you get home. Shouldn’t take longer than a few minutes.

Otherwise, try to see if there’s a tyre place nearby. Depending on the puncture, you may get away with pumping it up and either riding it (slowly and carefully) to the tyre place, or push it there.

Failing that. Check if your insurance comes with breakdown recovery. If it does, call them up.

Failing that, I don’t know :wink:

That’s why I asked where the bike was as their are loads of sports fields, and not many bike/tyre workshops in or arround Raynes Park. I might be able to help with transporting a wheel though.

Hiya,

Their is a kawasaki/aprillia dealer in grand drive in raynes park,on the corner of cannon hill lane. Maybe they can help if you tell them your stranded!

Gixerjunkie

Wheelpower - they have done scooter tyres for Jackie in the past, but very expensive. J&S have a Yam dealership by the New Malden Flyover but I wouldn’t let them touch my bike after Jackie’s experiences with their workshop when they pretended to PDI her bike. Don’t know much about Sunami in Morden as not used them since about 1989. None of those is likely to stock 10" or 11" tyres.

Some of this info. is a bit misleading as some retro Vespa and Lambretta models are /have been produced in India so tha even some recent models have inner tubes.

First question. Does the wheel look as if it’s two shaped plates bolted together with several nuts?

If yes , it’s almost certainly got an inner tube like a bike tyre and the best repair is a new tube. (Forget the specialist stuff folks, please.)

If no to question 1, then, depending on the cause and position of the puncture, it’s tubeless and can be treated as if a car tyre. All of the advice above is then good.

Aerosol tyre fixers are temporary repairs, professional fitted plugs are nearly permanent on rear wheels. (Particularly given the short life of scooter back tyres.)

If your still confused, call out your rescue service. If your not a member, just call the RAC (much better with bikes than the AA) and they will enrol you on the spot and then fix the problem.

Best of luck.

Sorry for being a bit of an anorak. I asked if it was a PX because PXs have been build in Italy until last December and legally sold in this country up till that point. So it doesn’t have to be a “20 year old” vespa to have inner tubes. It could be a 6 month old bike that is a regular import.

Additionally, Piaggo still make PXs to this date for the South American and African market, so you can actually still buy a 2-stroke, geared but brand new scoot … with inner tubes and spare wheel.

Also, LML, who used to produce PXs for Piaggo in India and now build clones, have recently been able to pass the EU emission tests with a modified PX engine, and there is a company importing them into the UK. A lot of those scoots are badged as Vespas as there is no visual difference except from the badge.

:cool:

A bit Off Topic, but I am with the AA and they have been great with my bike, and heard that an RAC guy would not plug a tyre. But guess with many of those things it depends on which engineer you get really…

Many workshops have been warned off plugging scooter tyres by the Police. I know none of the ones I regularly deal with won’t do it anymore. I suspect that they were not using a vulcanising process, and given the cost of replacing tyres on 10" or 11" wheels, and the speed at which they wear out, repairing them is probably a false economy anyway unless the tyre is brand new.

Back the point in question. if the original poster is still reading, I live locally and may be able to help out in some way.

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Steve… (23/06/2008)

I had my rear plugged by the RAC on Sunday, took all of 15 mins

Blimey mate dont let westie see this post or you be in trouble :D:D:D

watling tyres are good for fixing puntures , the dartford one only charges £5.00 for a loose wheel

but it very depends where the hole is wether it’s safe to do

Thought I really should update this with what I did.

Basically due to mad work hours and such it took about 1 1/2 weeks to get sorted.

Firstly I tried the can of gunk approach - didnt work.

Then after calling around to try and get some one to come out and take it to a shop- they wanted a small fortune for this service.

In the end I found www.mobilescooters.co.uk who were awesome and came and did the work where the bike was. kept me updated on when the chap would arrive, so i could get down from work in time.

really recommend them.

P.S cheers for all your help and suggestions!

Glad you got it sorted.