Well, after about 4 hours !! I managed to change the chain and sprockets on the Bandit - all seems fine now apart from when I reattached the front sprocket, I managed to snap the lock bolt that goes on top of the sprocket nut. AARRGH !
So I have a couple of questions:
Cheers :doze:
Get urself a easyout from a tool shop, your need to drill a hole into the snaped bolt and screw the easyout in which has the thread in the oppersite direction to the snapped bolt, as it tightens it unscrews the bolt…they come in different sizes so needs to be smaller then the snapped bolt ;)
Not sure bout the safety of using without the bolt in
Ouch! Thats a MacP innit?
Sorry to hear about this mate.
As TM says or you might be lucky to be able to tap it round with a punch.
I don;t remember any of my bikes have ever had that locking system on but saying that, Suzuki wouldn’t have added it unless they thought it needed it.
I wouldn’t use the bike until its sorted if I was you mate.:crazy:
Having a sprocket come off could get very messy indeed:crying:
Cheers for the heads up on the Easyout Tel, just ordered a set off fleabay.
Chunky - I’m not using the bike at the moment anyway cos I’m doing a few pre-MOT requirements on it (and am in the process of arranging another test so I can get rid of this fkn 33bhp restriction).
I will pop to the Suzuki partrs shop on Harrow Rd one lunchtime next week to get a replacement bolt (going there for a speedo bulb anyway).
Can’t believe I did it - Haynes said tighten to 11Nm - my torque wrench starts at 28 Nm - you can guess the rest :doze:
are yes thats tighten in up with a racket and an extra nip.
Oh yeah, is there such a thing as a torque wrench for weak settings (as in the case above) ?
I’ve had a look around but can’ find anything out there…
One word of warning about “Easy-outs”
Be very careful when using them as they are made of very hard steel and are very brittle. If you break the easy-out inside the bolt, it’s game over, engine out, and either a new output shaft or spark erosion from an engineering toolroom.:w00t:
Ooh so how much of the bolt has broken off…if there is still some thread, how much…it might be easier to leave it alone with loctite on the threads…
Easy out if used carefully will work. Trouble is this is the smallest of bolts and the smallewst of the easy outs…first you will have to be very careful with the tiny drill bit…then just as careful with the easy out…
try this first though…take another bolt longer than the hole and screw it down to the broken bit, then ever so slowly undo it and it will sometimes remove the broken bit…
I have a few more tricks I use but its bizzarre as my son was remvoing some trees yesterday and one of them got caught in the hydraulic lines of the excavator and pulled the bracket holding it right off which broke the bolt in the hole…much bigger bolt so more room to work on it. No thread so will try the punch first and then the easy out as it is a bigger bolt, might even be room to weld a bit of metal to it if that fails…then sort out the hydraulic line itself…now where did I put those easy out bolts…
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Oh god !
RESULT!!!
Scared off by all the easy off stories here and elsewhere on t’internet, decided to have another look under the sprocket cover just now. Where the bolt sheared off luckily left a very uneven surface, so with a small hammer and precision screwdriver, was able to establish that the bolt wasn’t too tight… so I managed to tap it undone with the screwdriver !! Massive relief !!
Cheers for the advice (and warnings!)
Lucky chance getting the broken bolt out. Well done.
Answer to a previous question "Yes, there are low reading torque wrenches out there. Have a shop around on the internet and you’ll find lots at lots of different prices.
If your not using it daily, you don’t need “Snap-on”, “Britool” quality, just something that works. Reckon on about £20 for anything vaguely worth having, and “Yes”, it is worth spending £20. This is an invaluable tool for the future if your going to do your own works.
Proof: A stripped sump drain plug will cost you many lots of work and about £20 to get sorted out. A drain plug that works loose and leaks could cost a whole new bike.
Oldguy
Brilliant result, I bet you are relieved mate:)
Well Done:D
Look for a smaller drive-size. With the smaller drive-size comes a lighter torque rating. You can find them in inch-pounds, as well as foot-pounds (yes, metric too, if you must).
Never would have believed the young were such geeks as to worry about ft/lbs, kG/Mtr, newtons.
It’s all bloody simple leverage and force. Just log on to the basics. Please!
Oldguy.
(Rant over.)
I just go along with whatever the Haynes manual says - it is the bible after all !!
