Flight Recorders from Air France Flight 447


Official: No black box signals from Flight 4474 hours ago

PARIS (AP) — French military ships searching for the black boxes of Flight 447 have detected sounds in the Atlantic depths but they are not from the Air France plane’s flight recorders, a French official said Tuesday.

The official and French investigators denied a report on the website of the French newspaper Le Monde that French ships had picked up a signal from the black boxes.

French military ships searching in the area where the plane crashed have “heard sounds” but “the black boxes have not been detected,” said an aide to France’s minister in charge of transport, Jean-Louis-Borloo. The aide spoke on condition of anonymity because she was not authorized to be publicly named.

The two recorders, key to helping determine what happened to the Air France plane that plunged into the ocean May 31, will only continue to emit signals for another eight days or so.

The Airbus A330 plane fell into the Atlantic after running into thunderstorms en route from Rio de Janeiro to Paris. All 228 people aboard were killed. The cause of the crash remains unclear.

The French air accident investigation agency, BEA, said in a statement Tuesday that “no signals transmitted by the flight recorders’ locator beacons have been validated up to now.”

The BEA said work is continuing “aimed at eliminating any doubts related to any sounds that may be heard, and any findings will be made public.”

Last week, BEA director Paul-Louis Arslanian sternly warned against any unconfirmed leaks in the investigation, saying they could mislead the public and unnecessarily worry or encourage the families.

Le Monde said a mini research submarine, the Nautile, dived Monday to search for the boxes based on a “very weak signal” from the flight recorders picked up by the French ships.

French military spokesman Christophe Prazuck said he could not confirm or deny the Le Monde report. French air accident investigators and officials with the French marine institute that operates the mini-sub, Ifremer, could not immediately be reached for comment.

Brazilian and American officials said that as of Sunday evening no signals from the black boxes had been picked up.

Searchers from Brazil, France, the United States and other countries are methodically scanning the surface and depths of the Atlantic for signs of the plane.

French-chartered ships are trolling a search area with a radius of 50 miles (80 kilometers), pulling U.S. Navy underwater listening devices attached to 19,700 feet (6,000 meters) of cable. A French submarine is also searching.

The black boxes send out an electronic tapping sound that can be heard up to 1.25 miles (2 kilometers) away.

Ten of 50 bodies recovered from the Air France flight that plunged into the Atlantic three weeks ago have been identified as Brazilians, medical examiners said.

Dental records, fingerprints and DNA samples were used to identify the bodies. Investigators are reviewing all remains, debris and baggage at a base set up in Recife, Brazil.

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

Why the b*llocks aren’t these things designed to work in the deepest of our planet’s waters? Or float? Given the surface of this planet is 71% water, are these not reasonable requirements for a device designed solely to provide record of a plane crashing into the surface of said planet?

I was wondering that. Though:

  • Given that it might still be connected to a fairly large bit of plane, making the device float might well turn out to be pointless in most cases. Some kind of automatic jettison device?
  • I don’t know how many air crashes happen over deep water, or the costs involved in making black boxes that work through that kind of depth of water, but my gut feeling is that the work is quite substantial and the number is relatively low.

Money… :angry:

(Also the philosophy behind them is to bury them away in a place which provides the most protection to survive the crash, as far aft as practicable: which would make it hard to allow them to break free and float)

Big Red S (24/06/2009)

Statistically very few over deep water, generally thats when the aircraft in is in the en-route cruise, the safety part of the flight. Most crashes occur in the take off or approach and landing phases, which is more likely to be over land or comparatively shallow water, where they’re much more easily recoverable.