People say that Ducatis are always going wrong, but PJ will tell you that is not the case :Whistling:
Admittedly I’m not the most knowledgeable, but I would say that the LC4 engine (in the Duke, Duke II, 625 SMC, 640 Adventure et al), is as reliable as most other engines if maintained properly. Although as a four stroke, single cylinder engine, it has shorter service intervals than an in line four.
I guess it comes down to the fact that engines need care and if treated badly can perform badly.
Even Hondas eventually
I want another SuMo!
Sorry, I forgot to add that the RFS engine has drastically reduced service intervals and drinks oil. But you get that back in performance and grin factor
Everyone says that but i dont have any of these probs with mine. The only thing ive ever realy had to sort out is the crank nut coming loose which is a 20min easy job. Not done it for awhile now though.
As for servicing, i abuse my 525 and rarely service it. once a month at the most if that. only other problems ive had are from where ive been moding it especialy with these wheels that arent actualy ment for the bike :w00t:
Would never sell it as its had too much money go into it and i love it to bits
I can recommend the XT660X as a first bike. I know a load of people are now going to come on and say it’s gay and not a proper SM and blah blah blah, but most those people have never ridden one.
It depends what you need it for, but if you want a bike you can live with every day and is reliable and cheap to buy and run, you can’t go wrong with an XT I think.
I may be selling mine next year as I would like something a bit bigger (the new baby hypermotard is on my list of bikes to try, it’s very nice indeed), and yes, if I could afford more than one bike I would definitly look into getting a more focussed Husky or KTM, but not as an every day bike.
About 30% of my riding is commuting (every day), the rest is riding countryside lanes, and occasionally long distance (taken it to Belgium a couple of times). So it’s a very versatile bike. Riding it on the motorway isn’t fun, and to be avoided.
Thanks for the discussion guys. Given me lots to Google. To be honest, looks play a big part in my eyes, I have to admire the design before I can buy it
Nothing looks as good as the Ducati really, so I guess the KTMs are the next best… Shame Ducati don’t do the 700cc version anymore, do they? I guess a second hand one of those might be good, though being supermoto it may have had some abuse… what do you think?
So many good bieks mentioned here, thanks. Time to start practicing for my test!
Is a supermoto suitable for all year round use? Commuting too?
When I google a lot of KTM bikes, I get pictures of straight dirt bikes, as well as SMs, where is the line between an offroader and a supermoto?
As Driesie says, an XT660 (s?) is great for commuting - any bike with such a high riding position and small turning circle would be.
Good as they are in the city, the motorway and long A road trips aren’t advised as a common thing among SuMos is a small tank range and because of the lack of fairing they don’t offer much protection from the elements.
Many KTM (and other similarly focussed manufacturers) SuMos are quite ‘spirited’ bikes and the torque is surprising and great fun, other bikes have supermoto styling, but lack the ‘fire’! Although they are probably easier to handle and maintain.
To be honest, I chose to go to from a KTM 625 SMC to a Thundercat (mid-range sports tourer) for my one ‘do-it-all’ bike as I can take pillions, travel on the motorway, carry lots of shopping, commute and don’t have a highly desirable bike that will get pinched as quickly as many motos might (Ducati Hyporetard for example).
I loved the SuMo, I love the TCat.
But I couldn’t ride and use the former like I do the latter!!
In the end, your choice of bike should come down to expected use, common sense and maybe a little bit of what you fancy (which, after all, does you good )
PS. If you drop a SuMo, you don’t often have a giant bill to repair cosmetic damage
I had a Hornet, CBR600, KTM 625 and now the Thundercat (600) and I’m glad I got something easier to handle after passing my test, although it didn’t take long to get used to the torque of the KTM and it was great for the majority of riding I did (commuting).
Not good on rideouts with friends who aren’t on SuMos though, as they will leave you for dust fairly soon or get p*ssed off as you keep having to stop to fill up (and get some life back into your backside - if it’s a single cylinder moto).
TBH, I should have taken Elad’s advice and got the Thundercat to start with - would have saved myself a lot of money!!!
i had the 660 for a while and loved it & went down to the 525exc, at 1st i thought i made a mistake but was the best thing in the end. only thing is insurance for the hypermoturd for a new rider will be ott.
Thing is, there is only 1 and you got it, so it’s not really an option!
Back on topic. Like Mad-Dog says. Check out insurance quotes. The new baby hypermotard looks lovely, but you may not find a company to insure it, depending on your age and where you live.
Similar story with some of the KTMs. They’re very “nickable”.
As it’s your first bike, I would get something secondhand, fairly cheap and easy to live with. You may have a much better idea of what you want in about a years time, and if you bought something secondhand you won’t loose so much money selling it on.