Dont be a Rapists Victim.Serious Info 4 Girls..

This is a long one but it is important information for females of ALL ages…

When this was sent to me, I was told to forward it to my lady friends, but I forwarded it to most everyone in my address book. My men friends have female friends and this information is too important to miss someone.

Please pass it along.

A group of rapists and date rapists in prison were interviewed on what they look for in a potential victim and here are some interesting facts:

  1. The first thing men look for in a potential victim is hairstyle. They are most likely to go after a woman with a ponytail, bun, braid or other hairstyle that can easily be grabbed . They are also likely to go after a woman with long hair . Women with short hair are not common targets.

  2. The second thing men look for is clothing. They will look for women who’s clothing is easy to remove quickly . Many of them carry scissors around specifically to cut clothing.

  3. They also look for women on their cell phone , searching through their purse, or doing other activities while walking because they are off-guard and can be easily overpowered.

  4. Men are most likely to attack & rape in the early morning, between 5:00a.m. and 8:30a.m.

5)The number one place women are abducted from/attacked is grocery store parking lots. Number two: is office parking lots/garages. Number three: is public restrooms.

  1. The thing about these men is that they are looking to grab a woman and quickly move her to another location where they don’t have to worry about getting caught.

  2. Only 2% said they carried weapons because rape carries a 3-5 year sentence but rape with a weapon is 15-20 years.

  3. If you put up any kind of a fight at all, they get discouraged because it only takes a minute or two for them to realize that going after you isn’t worth it because it will be time-consuming.

  4. These men said they would not pick on women who have umbrellas, or other similar objects that can be used from a distance, in their hands.
    Keys are not a deterrent because you have to get really close to the attacker to use them as a weapon. So, the idea is to convince these guys you’re not worth it.

  5. Several defense mechanisms he taught us are: If someone is following behind you on a street or in a garage or with you in an elevator or stairwell, look them in the face and ask them a question , like what time is it, or make general small talk: “I can’t believe it is so cold out here,” “we’re in for a bad winter.” Now you’ve seen their face and could identify them in a line-up; you lose appeal as a target.

11)If someone is coming toward you, hold out your hands in front of you and yell STOP or STAY BACK !

  1. If you carry pepper spray (this instructor was a huge advocate of it and carries it with him wherever he goes), yell I HAVE PEPPER SPRAY and holding it out will be a deterrent.

13)If someone grabs you, you can’t beat them with strength but you can by outsmarting them. If you are grabbed around the waist from behind, pinch the attacker either under the arm (between the elbow and armpit)OR in the upper inner thigh VERY VERY HARD. One woman in a class this guy taught told him she used the underarm pinch on a guy who was trying to date rape her and was so upset she broke through the skin and tore out muscle strands - the guy needed stitches. Try pinching yourself in those places as hard as you can stand it - it hurts .

14)After the initial hit, always GO for the GROIN . I know from a particularly unfortunate experience that if you slap a guy’s parts it is extremely painful. You might think that you’ll anger the guy and make him want to hurt you more, but the thing these rapists told our instructor is that they want a woman who will not cause a lot of trouble. Start causing trouble and he’s out of there.

15)When the guy puts his hands up to you, grab his first two fingers and bend them back as far as possible with as much pressure pushing down on them as possible . The instructor did it to me without using much pressure, and I ended up on my knees and both knuckles cracked audibly.

  1. Of course the things we always hear still apply. Always be aware of your surroundings, take someone with you if you can and if you see any odd behavior, don’t dismiss it, go with your instincts!!!

You may feel a little silly at the time, but you’d feel much worse if the guy really was trouble.

  1. Tip from Tae Kwon Do: The elbow is the strongest point on your body. If you are close enough to use it, do!

  2. Learned this from a tourist guide in New Orleans . If a robber asks for your wallet and/or purse, DO NOT HAND IT TO HIM. Toss it away from you…chances are that he is more interested in your wallet and/or purse than you, and he will go for the wallet/purse. RUN LIKE MAD IN THE OTHER DIRECTION!

  3. If you are ever thrown into the trunk of a car, kick out the back tail lights and stick your arm out the hole and start waving like crazy. The driver won’t see you, but everybody else will. This has saved lives.

  4. Women have a tendency to get into their cars after shopping, eating, working, etc., and just sit (doing their checkbook, or making a list, etc.) DON’T DO THIS! The predator will be watching you, and this is the perfect opportunity for him to get in on the passenger side, put a gun to your head, and tell you where to go. AS SOON AS YOU GET INTO YOUR CAR, LOCK THE DOORS AND LEAVE.

a. If someone is in the car with a gun to your head DO NOT DRIVE OFF, repeat: DO NOT DRIVE OFF! Instead gun the engine and speed into anything, wrecking the car. Your Air Bag will save you. If the person is in the back seat they will get the worst of it. As soon as the car crashes bail out and run. It is better than having them find your body in a remote location.

  1. A few notes about getting into your car in a parking lot or parking garage:
    A.) Be aware: look around you, look into your car, at the passenger side floor, and in the back seat.
    B.) If you are parked next to a big van, enter your car from the passenger door. Most serial killers attack their victims by pulling them into their vans while the women are attempting to get into their cars.
    C.) Look at the car parked on the driver’s side of your vehicle, and the passenger side. If a male is sitting alone in the seat nearest your car, you may want to walk back into the mall, or work, and get a guard/policeman to walk you back out.

IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY. (And better paranoid than dead.)

  1. ALWAYS take the elevator instead of the stairs. (Stairwells are horrible places to be alone and the perfect crime spot. This is especially true at NIGHT!)

  2. If the predator has a gun and you are not under his control, ALWAYS RUN! The predator will only hit you (a running target) 4 in 100 times. And even then, it most likely WILL NOT be a vital organ. RUN, preferably in a zigzag pattern!

  3. As women, we are always trying to be sympathetic: STOP! It may get you raped or killed. Ted Bundy, the serial killer, was a good-looking, well-educated man, who ALWAYS played on the sympathies of unsuspecting women. He walked with a cane, or a limp, and often asked “for help” into his vehicle or with his vehicle, which is when he abducted his next victim.

  4. Another Safety Point: Someone just told me that her friend heard a crying baby on her porch the night before last, and she called the police because it was late and she thought it was weird. The police told her “Whatever you do, DO NOT open the door.”

I’d like you to forward this to all the women you know. It may save a life. A candle is not dimmed by lighting another candle. I was going to send this to the ladies only, but guys, if you love your mothers, wives, sisters, daughters, etc., you may want to pass it onto them, as well.

Some dangerous advice there…

You should not copy stuff unchecked from an American page, as it might get you into trouble over here. For example your point 12; it is actually illegal in this country to carry pepper spray or mace.

There are a few more points that are somewhat questionable, like for instance point 10, as engaging into conversation with a potential attacker is inadvisable. Rather look confident and aware, which is a far better deterrent and try to get to a place where other people are.

And point 14 is just wrong. The chins are far better targets for kicks, as you don’t need to get as close and it is less expected. Besides, when you have him stunned, running away is the best option, whilst staying and fighting is the worst.

If you really seek some information about how to protect yourself, visit

The best advice is missing here is still: Have a plan and be aware. Walk away if you are feeling unsafe.

After reading both those write ups i think its good all women read it and absorb it but nine times out of ten most women in that situation would freeze or panic…or like me someone flashes you, chase them whilst shouting how disgusting they are! i think i terrified the bloke!!:smiley:

Well i am sorry but… women need to no how to protect themselves. I didnt get it of an American web. I was trying to help women out there, as i have spoken to people who have been a victum. It is very nice of you to leave that website address i shall look at it now. Thank you.

Apparently many rapes happen within marriage…

As to your questions on how easy it is to rape twostrokes (I think you have some flames heading your way by the way)…

Not too long ago, a young lady was raped in one of London’s major parks (can’t remember which one)…It was something like midday and people heard her screaming but noone came to help…

Figures really in this city.

Hey, I think your post is out of order and you should delete it, if you want to help then fine but the tone of the later part of your post is plain wrong, just get rid of it, it’s not nice and it’s not necessary.

Do you have daughters of your own twostroke?

If you do I hope and pray you never have to go through a pal of mine had to when his daughter was drugged and gang raped in Tenerife.

Spose you will say she was asking for it:crazy:

You are out of order mate.

I’m not entirely convinced that twostrokes went fishing for fish there… tsk. :blink:

The Met Police has a page with loads of links about generally staying safe and looking after yourself.

Please don’t forget that Men as well as Women can be the victim of a serious sexual assault.

Operation Sapphire

Twostrokes … I really don’t know what it is about you, I have found quite a few of your posts to be a bit odd, when I have replied or pointed things out to you, you don’t reply.
You have the attributes online of a troll - you may be a nice bloke in person but I’m not too impressed about this post, I think you could and should have shown a bit more sensativity.

i have four younger sisters…all of them have kids of their own now but i used to be hard on them as a big brother should…

i used to kick them out of nightclubs…and pay for cabs home as i was terrified that they’d be attacked in some way shape or form…

they understand now…but back then i was the biggest asshole in the world…but i was just trying to make sure they were safe…

it is all to real…by that footage a few years ago on the news when a CCTV camera was following a girl home late at night and then…a man came out of noware and raced up behind her…dragging her into the bushes…

it was all filmed on camera and the police were there shortley…but jesus…did that put the chills in my blood…


Well maybe twostrokes has actually gone fishing…Bloody charmin considering i gave up an evening… HE said he was coming over to see me to repair his leathers!:angry:

hey guys sorry…did not mean to offend but was being totally genuine in my response…with a little bit of tongue in cheek, ok, perhaps a bit out of place on such a serious subject but this is a forum not a court house…but okay take all your points…I am an ass and so humble forgiveness sought…

I have to say my “spam/chain letter/hoax” alert went off at the beginning of the first post. Whenever I read “I’ve-just-been-sent-this-and-it’s-really-useful-send-it-to-everyone-you-know-immediately” at the beginning of an e-mail or post, I do cringe.

Whatever else twostrokes says that you might disagree with, I also heard a report on Radio 4 quoting recent police figures that only a small percentage of rapes are by a stranger, so although women may well be at risk in a car park, they are a lot more at risk at the beginning of a potential relationship when they’re interested in a bloke but don’t yet know them.

Rape is never a funny subject and worth a discussion, as long as the conversation doesn’t wander off into sensationalism. The Suzy Lamplugh site is full of excellent, sensible advice. So the original poster might want to send those links back to the person who sent them the e-mail in the first place.

Stay alert. Act purposefully. Don’t put yourself in potentially risky situations if you can help it. (Actually, I think I’ve just offered the advice not to go out and get pissed, which is probably sensible advice too!)

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