How is 8 weeks in prison a joke?
Compared to nothing I say that's good.
Well it's not exactly a deterrent is it? Especially for a guy who obviously has a long track record of showing zero regard for the law.
So they should have fined him, what, £4,000, £40,000, £400,000? Any amount of money he surely cannot pay back, at least not without committing further crimes to raise it. What is a better value than £115 either as a deterrent of punitive?
But what was he actually convicted of? The story would appear to imply that it was to do with bike theft, but doesn’t say he was charged with, let alone convicted of stealing a bike or bikes. As he’s been banned from driving for 2 years, there’s obviously some sort of serious driving offence involved, but again no mention of what it was.
You're replying to comments about the incarceration, not the value of the fine.
Big Red S
Admittedly that is all that was in the post I quoted, but I was replying to the discussion. AlexT called it a joke saying "That cost me about £4k. A little more than £115," which is what Alba responded to. My point is that a big fine might look stricter but is as meaningless as a bazillion gazillion pounds if there is no means to pay for it.
But as to the length of the sentence being a deterrent, it is the same as with fines. People just want to read something that looks good on paper, not what is more meaningful. There is no perfect length, and certainly no standard one as everyone is different that as with fines it is all relative to the person. Eight day, weeks, or years; one definitely looks stricter but there is no way of knowing which is likely to rehabilitate someone. And prisons can be training grounds as well as holiday camps, apparently.
I am slightly at a loss a’s to what we should do with this person or all those convicted of the ultimate sin of motorcycle theft?
Whip them, cut off hands, indeterminate sentences? Yeah sure we could return to the 18th century where apparently they had no crime. Or we could look at the root causes of crime to try and fix those, such as rising social inequality… of course that’s a difficult problem and it’s always been easier to just slap a sentence to appease the masses who always want tougher sentencing