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SeanR1 (10/05/2013)
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donât think that the dealer would reduce the price due to a fault that can not be easily detected, theyâd always try and get the absolute max. Maybe itâs been hard to shift due to the **** weather and they are desperate to convert it back to cash?
yeah - I hear what you are saying - but all his other bikes seem to be accurately priced - even the weird ones that youâd think he would want to get shot of - but a popular low mileage sportsbike should be relatively easy to shift with the summer coming up without having to take a grand off it - plus Iâve seen a couple of bad stories about the place which have put me off.
I donât want to mention the name of the outfit because I donât want to diss a dealer on a public forum on the basis of a couple of bad reviews.
I think Iâm going to go with my gut feeling on this one.
6 years ago I bought my new bike for a grand less than list price (BTW that was about half new list price for same model today). Bear in mind that compared to 6 years ago new bikes are all over-priced in the current climate. Even if you get it for less you are probably paying more than itâs worth.
It would be much simpler if bike manufacturers were nationalised and all bikes had to be sold at cost plus 5% (or whatever the RPI is these days) 
Try to knock off another ÂŁ500âŚif theyâre desperate enough they might go for itâŚ
My gut tells me this one has underlying issues - and itâs probably being sold minus warranty/service history/hpi check etc - iâll phone up and find out.
Earlier in the year I thought about buying a ânewâ bike that had been sitting unsold in a dealership for 4 years. It was massively discountedâŚdefunct brandâŚout of warrantyâŚflat batteryâŚonly damage arse cheek marks on the seat and sagging suspension from all the thousands that had sat on it! Decided against it in the end as my bike is better but it was a proper bargain.
When you call the dealer ask them how long theyâve had it and where they got itâŚmight it be a similar scenario?
Iâve been following auto trader for a few months now - this one has only just popped up - they might have bought it at an auction or got it in a part ex.
The shop is a bit on the tatty side.
Some bikes seem to shift - others as you say hang about for literally months.
You need to speak to them and view it with the documents, itâs what your looking for and around the right price - until you do it will always play on your mind.
Yeah your right - It will be a good useful experience to go and check it out and see what the score is.
T-Cut and a good detailing can hide a lot of things mate⌠BE very cautious and take a good mechanically minded mate to the viewing⌠demand a cold engine that hasnât been prewarmed before you arrive and ride the thing for a test for at least an hour on as many roads as you can and through all gears up and down
If it stands that test⌠may just be a bargain⌠it has been known to happenâŚ
Yeah too true mate.
I donât know why but my sixth sense tells me I could be walking into an elaborate trap - like a kind of foolish magpie attracted to a shiny silver medallion which turns out to be just an old milk bottle top.
Thing is that as itâs a dealer, if it does turn out to be knackered and they didnât tell you before you bought it then, technically, you can return it for a full refund. Obviously itâs not always actually that easy, but even used goods must be âaccurately describedâ, âfit for purposeâ and of âsatisfactory qualityâ so the Sale of Goods Act should have your back
true - although I have heard that this place has a rather ârough and readyâ attitude to customer complaints . . .
With all this speculation, even if itâs sound youâll always be looking for problems with it⌠find another bike that you can trust.
Yeah - to be honest on reflection Iâd be happier paying book price from a reputable dealer than getting a bargain from a place I donât totally trust.
My bike is my only transport and not a toy/weekend thing - I use it for work, going to the supermarket - everything - so I absolutely have to get a solid machine.
This thread has helped me to arrive at this conclusion.
Could be like a dealer local to me who occasionally gets a bike in at a really good price to them - some punter desperate to sell it and takes a big hit selling direct to a dealer. The dealer then retails the bike on at a similarly discounted price to get a quick sale whilst still making their standard profit margin. Happens. Or maybe heâd totally screw the buyer over on their trade-in price if they have one. Who knows?
Regardless, at ÂŁ1000 off the usual price, you have plenty of scope to get the full works professional inspection done and still be quids in.
If youâre really worried about the cheap price, PM me the dealer and Iâll ask him to put it up buy a grand and if you buy, Iâll split the extra profit with him ÂŁ500 each
Sâfunny - We all tend to judge the seller as much as the bike.
My Dad, bless his soul, used to say âNever do business with someone you donât likeâ ⌠itâs true, never mind how good the deal looks, if you donât like or trust someone it will probably end in tears.
Iâve had some sellers who turned out to be right clowns, shifty and suspicious and walked away.
Others seemed solid with clean bikes, full paperwork etc etc and Iâve trusted them - with no regrets.
Of course some conman could play the honest card but theyâd better be bloody good at it!
Gut feeling guys - never letâs you down! 