Bought this one from Argos, as my battery was flat again this morning, so was two hours late for my first day at my new job… Rang Halfords to get a battery charger, but totally sold out.
No panic, as the breakdown guy told me to try Argos, so I bougth one, an RAC one (thinking it does exactly what it says on the box). How wrong could I be…
Firstly, the instructions says to be used only indoors, not outdoors. Also, while charging, I need to keep it plugged into the mains! What I need and thought I bought was one that I charge up from the mains, then take it two floors down, and around the corner by about 100m to my bike! So, who’s got an extension cable this long? Or, am I supposed to remove the battery from my scooter, take it home and charge it? In that case, I might as well keep it at home overnight so it wouldn’t catch a cold in the first place.
I now have to get up at bloody 5am to try the battery, so that if the breakdown people take 1.5h (as they did this morning) I won’t be late for work!
So, what do I do next? Is there a battery charger that you can charge up and take to your vehicle, or are they all to be used in the privacy of your own home?
Only the inbuilt immobiliser it came with. The battery is the original, so just under two years old.
If I go and get a new battery, can I put it in myself or do I have to take it into a garage (which won’t be possible until next weekend, so I may have to call the breakdown people in every day until then. What do I do with the old one?
I’m up the road in fulham, it’ll be ok, I’m by no means a scooter mechanic, but theyre pretty simple compared to R6’s etc i work on and the electrical basics are always the same. give me a shout if you want help.
See the thing with these immobilisers is that when it really comes down to it, they’ll immobilise the bike - against you. My experience with bike electrics is to leave 'em well alone. I’ve never had battery problems with any of my bikes, the only real electrical trouble I’ve had was with my last bike as the former owner was messing around fitting a gear change indicator which packed in after about a week.
My point of view is to leave em alone, imobilisers dont stop thieves, nor do alarms. Better to leave the wiring loom to do its original job, then you dont get all that drained battery crap unless your really uncarefull/unlucky.
No doubt some of you other guys have a point of view on this???
Hey Paivi is your Scooter new? I’m guessing it is and your probably a bit pissed off with it right now? Rightly so - effin thing should start. With scooters in the past you could kick the life out of them and then if all else fails push the thing untill it starts/doesnt start.
When was the last time you used it? Was it in the wet? Did you leave the ignition on?..dont go mad, weve all done it???
Paivi, sounds like the rac man was useless. He should of tested the voltage output of your bike while the engine was running.
Its true that in this cold weather the battery will disapate charge much faster than normal, but that said < afew days without starting in a worst case scenario would cause it not to start - not overnight!
If u get the rac to come out again get him to test the battery output once he has jumped it…should be in the region of 13.5-14/5 volts. If this isnt the case ure alternator/rectifies/both are broken. If it is the case go anf buy ureself a new battery, should cost no more than 30 quid
However the likelyhood is that if the alternator or rectigfies ir bust that this unit in joined toigether…most times not always.
FYI the rectifier changes the ac voltage generated as the engine is turning to dc, and the alternator actually generates that voltage.
Thanks man! I used it last night around 8pm and it was fine, this morning wouldn’t start. No kickstart, unfortunately, these big Vespas don’t have them. Mine’s just under two years old and I love it to bits, but not quite enough to carry it to the second floor to tuck it into my bed to keep it warm.
Will see how it goes tomorrow, if I have to get the breakdown people in again, I’ll get them to check the output.
I may have to take Chris up on his battery refitting service… I work in Canary Wharf and it’s a long way to a garage from there, so can’t nip into one at lunch hour either (well, lunch quarter of an hour, really).