Bandit 600 - changing chain & sprockets

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Well I have ordered new chain and sprockets for the Bandit:
513.15 Front Sprocket
829.47 Rear Sprocket
530Vx110 H/D O-Ring DID Chain

Should be here over the next couple of days - but am lacking some of the tools to do the job :doze:

From what I read on here, I can cut the old chain off with an angle grinder ? OK, I have one of those, do I just apply it to the sides of a link ?

Where I’m stuck is the riveter/joiner - is there something else I could use ? I have heard a g-clamp mentioned but sounds a bit dodgy to me… are there any kind souls out there willing to lend me one ? I’m in East / North East London if that helps?

Thanks folks :slight_smile:

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Hi.

Me and Dad changed my chain and both sprockets on my bandit 600 last week, just used a grinder to get the old chain off, swapped the sprockets over, then used a ball ended hammer and a metal pipe on the other side to fix the new chain on. Sounds a bit unconventional, but worked fine and my new chain is ace. Haven’t had a problem with it since. Bought a splitter/riveter originally to do it properly, but after it came with no instructions and £50 later, we decided to just do it ourselves.

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1-use the grinder to take the tops off the pins of one link then a nail punch or similar to push out the link

2-push the new link through from other side , slip on the retainer.

3-carefully and evenly press the retainer home so the pins protrude through the holes, i use a mole wrench with a thick washer over the protruding pin

4-get someone else to apply pressure against the other end of each pin with a substantial length of steel tube/whatever you can find

5-use a ball-pein hammer to ‘mushroom’ the end of each pin, placing the ‘ball’ on the pin and using a second heavier hammer to hit it .

THIS IS PURELY A METHOD THAT I FIND WORKS FOR ME, I AM SURE
LOTS OF PEOPLE HAVE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT METHODS…

…if you had a spare link you could always have a practice run…

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i can drop you off the tool to fit the new chain if you need it,

let me know

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Cheers for the advice.

Andy can I borrow the tool then please ? I’m hesitant to use the hammer method in case I lordy! it up !!
Are you in my neck of the woods in the near future ?
Cheers.

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yeah think i am going to see mother on thursday evening, will drop it off if not friday daytime .

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cheers fella you’re a star !

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whereabouts are you marklid??

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Chingford, E4.

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ok. see how you go when andy drops the riveter off. its fairly straight forward and im sure he’ll show you, but any probs drop me a pm and ill try to help over the phone if i can.

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are these instructions any good?? if so, i appreciate they are a little late, but will hopefully come in useful next time.

http://www.getgeared.co.uk/productinfo/products/pdfs/10003136.pdf

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Hi. Thanks, but we’ve done it now, plus I sent the tool back, cus it wasnt worth £50, so i’ve got a refund now, plus it didn’t really look like those pics anyways. But my chains all good now and I have my money back plus I know how to do it for next time. Thanks anyways.

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Cheers mate, but we already got our money back and there is some satisfaction in using ‘oldschool’ methods to achieve a decent result and save money at the same time.

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My money! :stuck_out_tongue:

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My ingenuity :stuck_out_tongue:

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fair do’s. i heard about the hammer trick, but a mate lent me the proper tool. im too clumsy to be arsing about with hammers and stuff near my bike :hehe::hehe::hehe:

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Well got it all sorted today :smiley: What a fkn messy job though, all the filth in the grease :w00t:
Only a couple of hitches, had to go out and buy a 32mm socket for the front sprocket nut, and then managed to snap the locking bolt on the front sprocket (see my other post here).

Took me a lot longer than it should have (4 hours!!) but satisfying all the same, saved me a few quid and taught me stuff about the bike too !

I saw posts in t’internet saying people had problems locking the rear wheel for the front sprocket removal, using 2 people with the bike in gear etc. - I found a piece of timber across the swingarm through the spokes did the trick just fine (watch out for the rear brake hose though).

And cheers to Andyp for the use of the chain splitter/joiner, worked a treat (although I left the big spanner on your kitchen table mate - doh ! Used an adjustable instead which was fine). Will give you a shout soon about dropping it back - maybe next weekend ?

Thanks for the advice folks.

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now, have you adjusted the chain to suite your weight :wink: