Any Ducati experts out there?

Hello all,

I’ve now decided on getting a Ducati, low cost and great ride(apparently), in a friendly insurance bracket(even though I have now lost my NCB since the theft of my bike in July), and of course its been a dream for a long long time.

Has anyone had the pleasure to ride both 2002 Monster 750 and 2006 Monster 695?  Although I have pretty much locked in the purchase of the 695 as its younger (at least Ill get 3 full years of commuting out of it before the new emission laws come into play), great service history, already has Termignoni exhausts(so i dont have to shell £600 for that, and somehow this particular one is listed cheaper(a good £350 cheaper which I will spend new gear).  Still would be good if anyone got experience on both, maybe if enough better points for 750 I may change my mind?

Cheers,

Dingo


Hello all,
I've now decided on getting a Ducati, low cost and great ride(apparently), in a friendly insurance bracket(even though I have now lost my NCB since the theft of my bike in July), and of course its been a dream for a long long time.
Has anyone had the pleasure to ride both 2002 Monster 750 and 2006 Monster 695?  Although I have pretty much locked in the purchase of the 695 as its younger (at least Ill get 3 full years of commuting out of it before the new emission laws come into play), great service history, already has Termignoni exhausts(so i dont have to shell £600 for that, and somehow this particular one is listed cheaper(a good £350 cheaper which I will spend new gear).  Still would be good if anyone got experience on both, maybe if enough better points for 750 I may change my mind?
Cheers,
Dingo
Dingo-Biker
whatever you get you may need to consider to ULEZ that's coming in 2020 if not sooner

Basically it means any bike registered before 2007 will be chargeable  daily to come into London

there are exceptions but few


Hello all, I've now decided on getting a Ducati, low cost and great ride(apparently), in a friendly insurance bracket(even though I have now lost my NCB since the theft of my bike in July), and of course its been a dream for a long long time. Has anyone had the pleasure to ride both 2002 Monster 750 and 2006 Monster 695?  Although I have pretty much locked in the purchase of the 695 as its younger (at least Ill get 3 full years of commuting out of it before the new emission laws come into play), great service history, already has Termignoni exhausts(so i dont have to shell £600 for that, and somehow this particular one is listed cheaper(a good £350 cheaper which I will spend new gear).  Still would be good if anyone got experience on both, maybe if enough better points for 750 I may change my mind? Cheers, Dingo Dingo-Biker
whatever you get you may need to consider to ULEZ that's coming in 2020 if not sooner
Basically it means any bike registered before 2007 will be chargeable  daily to come into London
there are exceptions but few
Wise
Thanks Wise, indeed I have taken it into consideration, see my quote in bold above which I was refering to. I would get about 3 years riding out of this bike before needing to change.  Also by that time I hope to reclaim 3 years no claims before having to replace it with a bigger bike.

Does the 2002 have a dry clutch? I had an S4 and the dry clutch was hell riding around at low speeds. I’d constantly have to slip the clutch on roundabouts and use the back brake. Also I don’t think you can pivot Dukes on their side stands. Not sure if that matters to you but that’s a major reason why I can’t get one.

There’s no such thing as a cheap Ducati. Buy the younger one. Less likely to go wrong as stuff won’t have had as long to wear out.

Had a 2007 695, good bike, strong engine, 70 bhp I seem to remember, few things to consider and  look out for. Belt changes can be expensive but are not that tricky to do at home, engines suffer from paint peeling off as very exposed, my petrol tank blistered, don’t put E10 petrol in or the plastic tank might expand, they are quite low and small’ish, really needs to be garaged if you want to look after her properly. The clutch, gears etc… are all fine, the 695 was basically the prototype 696 a big evolution in Ducati finish and reliability, mine never missed a beat, I sold it to get the 796 in 2010 but I was seduced by the new Monster looks and single side swinger, in truth I could/should have kept the 695.  

E10 petrol is basically all 95 Ron unleaded, and Shell V Power

As I understand it E10 is 10% Ethanol and 90% RON 91 unleaded.

The ethanol boosts the RON rating from 91 to 95

Hello, and welcome to potential Monster ownership. I have a Monster 695, and it is Euro 3, so you don’t have to worry about ULEZ charges, even if the plate is pre 07, you c an register it with TFL for exemption. It’s great for round town, and don’t stress about the tank. If your tank isn’t warped by now, you’ve got nothing to worry about. Keep it on the super unleaded and it’ll be ok. I replaced my tank, as a previous owner had had it badly resprayed, and I got a brand new old stock one off Italian Ebay for £100 and fitted it at Oval.

Do check when your belts were last done, they should be done every 2 years, and the full Ducati service including belts is a spendy one. The independent “Ducati” garages in London will take around £7-800 of your hard earned for that, alternatively you can go to Pro Twins in Kent, and it’s about £500 I’m led to believe. I managed the interim service myself at Oval for a couple of hours bench time and a kit from Moto Rapido. 

Ducatis are expensive if you don’t like to get your hands dirty. My 695 has seen me well over the past few years, I’ve travelled Italy, done World Ducati Week including a Misano track session, and manage a regular commute to work on it. It has more BHP than the 750, plus is an injection model, so you don’t have to deal with carbs icing up etc. 


Hello, and welcome to potential Monster ownership. I have a Monster 695, and it is Euro 3, so you don't have to worry about ULEZ charges, even if the plate is pre 07, you c an register it with TFL for exemption. It's great for round town, and don't stress about the tank. If your tank isn't warped by now, you've got nothing to worry about. Keep it on the super unleaded and it'll be ok. I replaced my tank, as a previous owner had had it badly resprayed, and I got a brand new old stock one off Italian Ebay for £100 and fitted it at Oval.
Do check when your belts were last done, they should be done every 2 years, and the full Ducati service including belts is a spendy one. The independent "Ducati" garages in London will take around £7-800 of your hard earned for that, alternatively you can go to Pro Twins in Kent, and it's about £500 I'm led to believe. I managed the interim service myself at Oval for a couple of hours bench time and a kit from Moto Rapido. 
Ducatis are expensive if you don't like to get your hands dirty. My 695 has seen me well over the past few years, I've travelled Italy, done World Ducati Week including a Misano track session, and manage a regular commute to work on it. It has more BHP than the 750, plus is an injection model, so you don't have to deal with carbs icing up etc. 
UrsaMonster
Thanks UrsaMonster!  I pick her up on Monday!  Oh wow, thats great news about the ULEZ exemption, looks like I did make the right choice of the two. Thanks for tank tip!  According to history I think it was done 3 years ago but only been 2000miles since as the owner didnt ride it that much.  Reckon still worth doing?  Oval, you mean the suburb next to Kennington(excuse my ignorance)? 

I am quite handy and I have a private garage so can do work there which i do for my scooter.  Although limited tools.

I think you just answered my parts question with that Italian ebay comment! Amazing!

What do you do for luggage/storage?  More specifically day to day carrying my really heavy Almax chain.  I dont really want to carry that in a backpack.  Any recommendation for that stuff, however rather not get a box that make me look like a Deliveroo driver(no offence :) ), maybe pannier?

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oh I do like the look of the monster…

Oval is Oval Motorcycle Centre a place you can go and buy ‘time’ to work on your bike with all the tools (and ramp) your heart could desire for you to do the work yourself… Also you have Matt there who is very patient and will help you through any problems you come up against as you tackle bike maintenance. He also really knows his stuff :slight_smile:

Re: carrying the almax… Wouldn’t that really throw off your balance of the bike? You could look at the Kriega softpacks that can be strapped under the seat but I would be worried as to whether they could support the weight? Don’t carry it in your backpack - if you have an off it could cause more damage than you expect!

Can you leave one at work and one at home? You’ll get tired of lugging it around very very quickly! I know I did and resorted to just having a disc lock (but then got underground parking) 


Thanks UrsaMonster!  I pick her up on Monday!  Oh wow, thats great news about the ULEZ exemption, looks like I did make the right choice of the two. Thanks for tank tip!  According to history I think it was done 3 years ago but only been 2000miles since as the owner didnt ride it that much.  Reckon still worth doing?  Oval, you mean the suburb next to Kennington(excuse my ignorance)? 
I am quite handy and I have a private garage so can do work there which i do for my scooter.  Although limited tools.
I think you just answered my parts question with that Italian ebay comment! Amazing!
What do you do for luggage/storage?  More specifically day to day carrying my really heavy Almax chain.  I dont really want to carry that in a backpack.  Any recommendation for that stuff, however rather not get a box that make me look like a Deliveroo driver(no offence :) ), maybe pannier?
Dingo-Biker
You're very welcome!

A few things. The belts, I would recommend getting them done, as they can “set” in position if they’ve not had much use, and a snapped belt can be a very messy and expensive problem to solve. I would ring Matt at Oval and see if he’s happy to advise on a belt change and big service, as it’s quite specialist. Order your parts from Moto Rapido, get them delivered to Oval, and go get stuck in.

Also, as your bike is an injection model, it may be worth considering going somewhere that has an electronic Ducati diagnostic tool, just to check everything is as it should be, as 2000 miles in 3 years is very low mileage, and Ducatis that aren’t ridden can get quite unhappy. In London you have the choice of Metropolis, Rosso Corse or Ray Petty Meccanica.

Luggage wise, I have a Kriega Tailpack, however, being 5’1" I struggle to get on and off the bike in a graceful way with it, so got a tank bag converter for it. From American Ebay I got new old stock Mandarina Duck Panniers (Ducati City bags that were made for the Ducati City Monster in the 90s), that bolt on to the sides of the bike, a bit like 2 briefcases, which did me well for travelling in Italy. They were about £140. I know a few people have the Oxford throwover soft panniers, and they work well although are not to my taste. I wouldn’t go the Top Box route, it just looks all wrong, if you can leave an Almax chain at work, it’s a much better idea.

Lastly, the UK Monster Owners Club has a great forum, monthly London meets, and you’ll find people much better qualified than me on there to advise on the specific technicalities.

This is my 695, complete with Mandarina Duck panniers, back at the Ducati factory in the summer, apologies if it doesn’t upload right way up!

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Nope, but maybe one soon after coming across this near mint condition one…

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That is gorgeous


Oval is Oval Motorcycle Centre a place you can go and buy 'time' to work on your bike with all the tools (and ramp) your heart could desire for you to do the work yourself... Also you have Matt there who is very patient and will help you through any problems you come up against as you tackle bike maintenance. He also really knows his stuff :)

Re: carrying the almax… Wouldn’t that really throw off your balance of the bike? You could look at the Kriega softpacks that can be strapped under the seat but I would be worried as to whether they could support the weight? Don’t carry it in your backpack - if you have an off it could cause more damage than you expect!

Can you leave one at work and one at home? You’ll get tired of lugging it around very very quickly! I know I did and resorted to just having a disc lock (but then got underground parking) 

Serrisan
Oval Motorcycle Center....What an amazing idea and concept!  This actually solved a lot of issues I have, Tools, space, knowledge, getting away from the MRS!  Thanks!  Ill definitely utilize this and maybe see some of you there!

I think you have a point there…I dont generally lock up my bike( or scooter) at work as we have security. I lost faith in disc locks when my last bike got stolen…but I think you are right(again) by saying I will get sick of carrying the big chain.  What other security devices do people use when on the go?  This bike is supposed to have a Datatool but is disconnected for some reason, maybe needs to be resurrected.


You're very welcome!
A few things. The belts, I would recommend getting them done, as they can "set" in position if they've not had much use, and a snapped belt can be a very messy and expensive problem to solve. I would ring Matt at Oval and see if he's happy to advise on a belt change and big service, as it's quite specialist. Order your parts from Moto Rapido, get them delivered to Oval, and go get stuck in.
Also, as your bike is an injection model, it may be worth considering going somewhere that has an electronic Ducati diagnostic tool, just to check everything is as it should be, as 2000 miles in 3 years is very low mileage, and Ducatis that aren't ridden can get quite unhappy. In London you have the choice of Metropolis, Rosso Corse or Ray Petty Meccanica.
Luggage wise, I have a Kriega Tailpack, however, being 5'1" I struggle to get on and off the bike in a graceful way with it, so got a tank bag converter for it. From American Ebay I got new old stock Mandarina Duck Panniers (Ducati City bags that were made for the Ducati City Monster in the 90s), that bolt on to the sides of the bike, a bit like 2 briefcases, which did me well for travelling in Italy. They were about £140. I know a few people have the Oxford throwover soft panniers, and they work well although are not to my taste. I wouldn't go the Top Box route, it just looks all wrong, if you can leave an Almax chain at work, it's a much better idea.
Lastly, the UK Monster Owners Club has a great forum, monthly London meets, and you'll find people much better qualified than me on there to advise on the specific technicalities.
UrsaMonster
OK cool Ill get the belt done, no brainier!  Although i am not sure I am that confident or have the time to do that sort of job myself!  But yeah Ill ring Matt, maybe its not as difficult as I make it out in my head!

I actually called Rosso Corse as he is just up the road from my place, having coffee with the dude this weekend.

I like the idea of the side panniers.  Ill look into those!  Thanks again mate!  Agreed about the top box looking wrong LOL.

UK Monsters Club!  Awesome!  Ill get on that too.  But I like this forum.

This is my 695, complete with Mandarina Duck panniers, back at the Ducati factory in the summer, apologies if it doesn't upload right way up! UrsaMonster
Thats exactly what i would like! Looks like snap on and off?

@Curtis!  Thats awesome!

Dingo if we’re being honest an almax through the frame tied to something is probably as good as it gets. Electronic deterrents really don’t count for much against anyone with a van or just a bit of will. You might want to look into a tracker, some people have used them effectively to get bikes back but it’s no guarantee and thieves know where to look for them. Also, it doesn’t stop the theft in first place and the damage they will do to get it moving.

At home I have a chaing through the frame, a disclock front and back and when I leave it up for a while I put a cover over and lock it into place. My opinion is that the cover is important if it’s on the road but it also adds a hassle in the morning when trying to use it every day. Now if I am using it daily (rarely) I won’t cover it up.

Then again, I am underground, outside London so less of a stress…