You hit a fresh diesel spill - any lean/front braking whatever - you are f*cked regardless of the state of your tyres or how good you think you are - you will go down like a sack of potatoes in what feels like a split second.
people can and do, hit diesel and stay on, i know i have, on a corner too, lucky? yes probably… that and a good reaction, granted tho diesel is sum slippery ****!..
the dude in the vid, what is he doing with the clutch!? and it looked to me like his bar weren’t straight?
my pet hate the person leering out the car window with a big grin obviously taking the piss and most likely oblivious to the wiff of diesel right under his nose without a clue to how the rider come off.
You can drop a bike at 5 mph u-turning in a car park on a serious fresh spillage of diesel - most people who have been riding for a few years and clocked up thousands of miles (like you have) have experienced and recovered the slips and slides you describe - how do you know what you slid on was not a diluted patch of diesel that had been down a few days and was of a small radius (meaning your tyres only lost traction momentarily) and was more recoverable?
If you hit a serious large radius or long streak of freshly spilt diesel at any kind of lean or front braking you are going down mate.
i don’t disagree on that, i was couriering at the time (medical) and was on my way to the royal free using back roads i turned into a side road that goes round as you turn into it without warning a slid whilst at a slight lean angle towards the kerb but somehow reacted quick enough to recover it, i pulled over and walked back to find a trail ( like the vid) of diesel, it was pretty slippery so fresh? i have no idea…that said i used that route pretty much everyday and im pretty sure it wasn’t there the day before,i flagged a police car down who immediately diverted traffic round it and called to have it cleaned up.
i was lucky i know that! only time in many years and miles i’ve hit diesel tho, i have come into roundabouts knees and elbows out and spotted a dark trail going round it, avoided it and pulled over for a look…yup diesel, 20/20 eyes man!
BTW twice i dropped the work bike at 5mph doing u-turns, no diesel tho just absolutely knackered form riding all day in hot weather.
Yes mate I know what you are saying - it’s just that it has happened to me before and it happened in a split second - no time to react - literally no warning - one minute everything fine - the next minute I’m tumbling off the bike - my reactions are good - but this was like having a trap door open underneath you.
Well spotted - does look more like them, though still rather soft / squared-off in the middle? Looks “worse” on the video perhaps.
I’ve ridden through what was probably crude oil too (with BikerGirl400) crossing Turkmenistan. Unfortunately most of the road was covered in it over the brow of a hill, so no escaping. We had mixed-road Anakee tyres on, which may have helped us both stay up - just had to gingerly ride off the side with a bit of wheel spin and wear the oil off as soon as possible. Luckily it was on a straight road, as yes any lean would have made things very difficult.
Sometimes it amazes me that a bike has any grip in the wet, let alone oil. I increasingly find myself keeping the bike up vertical on anything but a dry road, and using body weight more. That seemed to save me on a greasy corner around Loch Lomond on the RBLR1000 this weekend - whereas the guy right behind me lent his bike over a bit too much and slid across the road…
Hit a flood of diesel on Park Lane at 40 mph last year. Covered three lanes- no way of avoiding. Hit the brakes- went straight through the red light and stopped in time for Hyde Park Corner…pure luck and keeping a straight line. I count myself lucky…